Ep 7: "Wizarding World Deep Dive"

Tay:

Alright. Hey, everybody, and hack. It is, 8 PM Eastern Standard Time and 6 PM where I am at. I am Tay, half of, the queens of nerdom.

Jenn:

And I am Jen, the other half of Queens of Nerdom and of House Hufflepuff. Oh, I

Tay:

didn't know we were gonna talk about our houses yet.

Jenn:

Welcome to oh, please. Go ahead.

Tay:

Oh, no. Oh, okay. Yeah. Sorry. I wasn't aware we were gonna do the houses yet.

Tay:

As you can all see, I am house

Jenn:

You're okay.

Tay:

Yeah. Yeah. We're great. Sorry to interrupt your intro.

Jenn:

Love it. So, no, go right ahead. So as you guys know, we have did our, heroes and villains, episodes that we've been doing for the past several months. And, you know, Tay and I were just talking, and we were talking with some of our buddies, and we just kinda felt like there is something missing. Better.

Jenn:

There's just more to say. So we have gone and done what is called a deep dive. So we went down the rabbit hole, and we're gonna take you with us tonight. I know. So I hope you enjoy it.

Jenn:

The people who inspired us to do this will shout you out as we go through the subjects that you inspired us to do. So, hopefully, you're on tonight and watching. But yeah. You ready?

Tay:

Yes, ma'am. Super ready.

Jenn:

Let's do it.

Tay:

It's okay. Alright. Let's do it. There it is. Okay.

Tay:

I love it. I love it so much. So as the standard is is, that we're gonna go ahead and do a shot. So we're gonna do a shot. So I have, pomegranate, Ciroc.

Tay:

What are you taking a shot of?

Jenn:

I hate myself tonight, so I am taking a shot of the kraken. The kraken?

Tay:

Oh, god. Okay. Well, I love it. So, this shot, is going to be a shot 1, for our very own, happy birthday to Mac. He's half of, you know, the smoke pit.

Tay:

Last night live, it was only on Patreon. So if you're not a part of Patreon, go ahead and subscribe and, like, get in on those awesome perks. But, the smoke that actually allowed us to be part of their season 4, ending, And it was, like, super cool. If y'all don't know, actually, the smoke pit is where Jen and I met because we've never actually met in real life. So without the smoke pit, there wouldn't be any queen.

Tay:

So thank you guys for having us on, and, cheers. That's all spicy. Why is it so spicy?

Jenn:

It's so spicy. Why did I do that? That's fire. Okay. Sorry.

Jenn:

Okay. So, again, happy birthday to you, Mac. Black it was awesome being on the podcast with you last night. We thoroughly enjoyed it. But, we are going to get started off on wand lore.

Jenn:

So this is, goes out to Rob. Rob, you know who you are. You're a first name basis in a lot of people's houses, I'm sure. But, he wanted me to go deep diving into the wand lore because there's actually a lot of, well, just that. There's a lot more lore behind it.

Jenn:

There's only a a few trees that can actually produce wood that is, one quality. You can't just walk into a forest, and, like, grab a twig and, like, make a wand. Just not doesn't happen. One indication to Eighty, stop it. Now if you guys have seen the, I can't try trying to focus, sir.

Jenn:

Bowtruckles. If anybody knows what a bowtruckle is, if you have watched the magical beasts and where to find them, a bowtruckle is that little, viney twig creature that you see. That's what I'm doing wrong. Yeah. No random twigs.

Jenn:

Yeah. It has to be a magical tree. They are tree guardians, and so, they only live on trees that are of one quality. So that is a good indication that that tree has, a one quality to it. The other thing to keep in mind that there are different trees that have different personalities.

Jenn:

I know it's funny, but it's true. So wands, were likely to choose a wizard that had, like, a matching personality. So for instance, like, a cypress tree, would probably want to choose somebody that's noble and willing to heroically sacrifice themselves for others, while a pine is more of an independent and intriguing loner. And then you have, like, a spruce tree who is like a firm handed wizard who is bold and had, like, a good sense of humor. It's an interesting combination.

Jenn:

Like, these trees are very picky. Now Mhmm. Occasionally, the the firmness of the wand is mentioned as well. Like Harry Potter has a nice and, like, supple. I think you remember Ollivander was, like, holding his wand.

Jenn:

He was like, oh, it's nice and supple. And then you have Bellatrix where her wand is, like, very unyielding. And then, Draco Malfoy was, reasonably springy. And then Mhmm. Rubeus Hagrid, Hagrid, his was, like, rather bendy.

Jenn:

So that's another thing, that comes into play when you're talking about wands. The different, branches of magic. So, like, wands that are made from fir trees are good for transfiguration. Okay. So I have a feeling that professor McGonigal probably had a fir tree.

Jenn:

I bet you.

Tay:

That's what I think.

Jenn:

Because she's, like, amazing at the transfiguriate. And then you have the right, so then you have the yew tree, which is good for dwelling and curses. So I would think an oro may have that wand. Get one rebate. I don't know.

Jenn:

But it would make sense that if you're good at that, that's what your your wand would want to choose you. So you. And then an elder wand is, good for, not the elder, elder from an elder tree is good for, nonverbal spells. I know.

Tay:

Okay. That's interesting. Yeah.

Jenn:

Now So now with wands, you know, that we learned in the first Harry Potter movie that there's cores inside. Now the best and most powerful wand cores are the phoenix feathers, unicorn hair, and then dragon heart strings. And, actually, these are the only three cores that, mister Ollivander would use to make his wands. Now the unicorn hair isn't very strong, but it was reliable and stable and incredibly difficult to turn to the dark arts due to the unicorn's purity. And then a dragon heartstring, is more strong and, like, flamboyant and but, like, prone to accidents.

Tay:

Okay. So do you think that, like, Neville's maybe his

Jenn:

That's right.

Tay:

Like, was his first one? Like, made with dragon maybe? Because, like, you know, how he was

Jenn:

See if it was.

Tay:

Okay.

Jenn:

He was prone to accidents a lot. I don't even yeah. I don't know. I'm sure we I yeah. I probably brain dump that one.

Jenn:

And then you have the phoenix feather, which is actually the rarest type of core. It's capable of the greatest, magic range, and they show the motion initiative, sometimes acting on their own accord. And they're actually the most pickiest when it comes to potential owners. Do you remember who had a phoenix feather in their wand? Anyone?

Jenn:

Anyone? Harry.

Tay:

Oh. I

Jenn:

remember Harry and Voldemort had seen a feather in there once, and it came from the same bird.

Tay:

Oh, okay. Yeah. No. I don't I don't remember that. But oh, no.

Tay:

No. No. Because there was only 2 that that that phoenix only had 2 feathers, and one was in Harry's and then the other one was Voldemort's wand, but it could only be wielded by Harry because of things and such.

Jenn:

Right. Actually go over what happens when their wands fight each other. Because Dumbledore touches on it, but he doesn't really go into what that, well, he kind of does. But it kinda like went over my head. I was just like, uh-huh.

Jenn:

But it's I just hit my horn. Yes. I will go over that. So, going about the most I'm like, my poor horns. I'm sorry.

Tay:

It's fine. My hood fell.

Jenn:

Over the most famous and most important we're falling apart over here. It's like I'm knocking horns. My hood's falling. Can't talk. Good.

Jenn:

Sorry. So the elder wand. Alright. Remember in the story, the tale of the 3 brothers? So the story is, in case you guys need a refresher, is death approached an elder tree.

Jenn:

He retrieved a branch and created the elder one. Now many others, including Dumbledore, believe that, the Antioch, Peverell himself, not death, created the older one. So he actually used the wood of an elder tree and used the hair of a thestral.

Tay:

Oh, because they're on their But they both have

Jenn:

a strong, multiple. Yeah. So and if you, look at it, they both have strong, cultural connotations towards death. The thestral, the elder tree. So it kinda made sense.

Jenn:

But, but other than that, the the core of the wand was, like, never revealed. And I kinda, like, wondered because I remember because it's such an important part of the movie where Harry, like, breaks the elder wand in half. You know? Of course, you see this flash of light, and I'm like I don't remember seeing any other flashes of light when wands would break and stuff, but, I mean, it was like a bright white. And I'm like, I wonder if that was a celestial hair.

Jenn:

I don't know. I'm curious. Curious.

Tay:

That is super curious.

Jenn:

Alright. Right? I was curious about

Tay:

that. So

Jenn:

the moment that Voldemort comes back. I'm talking about the moment in the Goblet of Fire. So you have Voldemort and Harry, and they start battling. And, like, their wands, like, create this color, like, looks like magical goo coming off and they're blasting at each other. Like, to me, it looks like the photon packs from, like, like, a little bit from, Ghostbusters.

Jenn:

But, this is called, Peoria incantatum. Sorry. My Latin sucks, but this is and like I said, this is when, Voldemort and Harry, their wands share the same feather or the like, feathers from the same phoenix. I think that's fox. I don't know if they actually ever said it, but I was always suspicious.

Jenn:

So that was Dumbledore's bird that donated for whatever had the feathers. So what happens is is that these ones actually consider or they're referred to as brothers. And when they come into contact with each other, there's a rare connection that's formed, and that's what the Peoria, priori incontatum is. Now the wands will battle to merge into, like, a, golden orb into the winning's shaft. Sounds bad, but that's what happens.

Jenn:

The losing wand would then produce echoes of the most recent spells that have performed in the reverse order. So that's why you see Harry's dad say, hey, when I tell you to, you know, stop and, like, run, we'll distract him because that that's what's happening is that all these, you know, memories or last spells are coming off of all. Now after this happens, the 2 wands will actually recognize each other. And even if, the wizard is not carrying that same wand with that same core, that wand will recognize the other wizard. So in the Battle of the 7 Potters, Harry's wand actually recognized Voldemort and spurted flames at him, even though Voldemort wasn't carrying that wand, he was carrying Lucius' wand.

Tay:

Okay. I could see that. Digest. Because I

Jenn:

didn't notice that. I actually had to go back and watch. I was like, no. I didn't. Lies.

Jenn:

I know. Yeah. But, yeah, that's what I didn't yeah. I thought that was really cool lawnmower there. I was like, oh, I didn't know that.

Jenn:

So, yeah. It was interesting.

Tay:

Okay. Yeah. Alright. The I mean, like, it makes sense that, like, when Dumbledore was talking about how, like, Harry and Voldemort, like, their wands can't, like, hurt each other just because, like, if you're brothers, like, you don't can't really, like, hurt each other like that. Right?

Tay:

Like so it it makes sense in my mind anyway.

Jenn:

I get it. For sure. It made sense to me after I I, like, I was starting to read it, and then I went back and watched the, or I watched clips of the, Battle of the 7 Potters. And I was like, oh, oh. Oh my god.

Jenn:

Then yeah. Okay. I get it. I didn't know that's what happened. I wish they kind of would there's, like, there's things that just are missed that I wish they would go overboard, but in the movies anyway.

Jenn:

Yeah. It's what it is.

Tay:

Okay. So we're gonna go into, my first topic, which is actually, about the Hogwarts houses. So, as you know, there are 4 houses at Hogwarts. You have your Gryffindor, you have Ravenclaw, Hufflepuff, and, of course, you have Slytherin. I see.

Tay:

The reason why I wanted to talk about these was just because people always, like, say that, like, you wanna be in Gryffindor or you don't wanna be a part of Slytherin. But, I mean, like, as you could see with the the last episode of, it was Harry Potter, and the Deathly Hallows part 2, when, like, it was the end scene when, Albus, see Sirius, Potter asked Harry Potter, his dad, like, hey. What if I get put into Slytherin? And he's like, well, then Slytherin has, like, one of the best wizards that I know. Like, right?

Tay:

You were named after Albus, who I'm pretty sure was, Gryffindor. I don't remember or recall right now what actual his house was. And then

Jenn:

I think it was Gryffindor.

Tay:

Yeah. That makes sense. And then Snape, who was

Jenn:

Dumbledore.

Tay:

In the Slytherin house. So with that being said, like, he he was like, you know, it's not a bad thing. So I wanted to go into the actual houses, the different traits for each of the house, and then kinda, like, go from there. So, so the first one we're gonna talk about is Gryffindor. And, actually so Jen's other half, Eric, he is a Gryffindor.

Tay:

So, the traits that Gryffindor's have is your bravery bravery, you're daring, you have nerve, and you're I also have chivalry. The album, that you see on their crest is a lion. The gemstone of that house is rubies, so, like, the the red. Right? And then the colors you have scarlet and gold.

Tay:

It corresponds with the element of fire. So each house has its own element. So for Gryffindor, it's fire. The significant object, and I'll kind of, like, double back on this later of, like, why I thought, like, talking about the significant object was interesting. It was the sword of Gryffindor, which you first saw in, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, when he kills the basilisk or the snake.

Tay:

The famous Gryffindor's. Yeah. So the famous Gryffindor's, you have, Dumbledore, Harry Potter, and McGonagall. Those are, like, your 3, like, top tier Gryffindor's, if you will. So the next house that we're gonna talk about is, the Hufflepuff.

Tay:

So that's Jen. So the traits of a Hufflepuff is to be hardworking, dedicated, patience, loyal, and fair play. The emblem, that you see on their crest is a badger. The gemstone is a yellow diamond, which I thought was actually really cool.

Jenn:

Why is it gonna be a badger?

Tay:

Because they're hardworking. You know, who else does what they do, which I 100% understand everything that a badger does. And I know that a badger is not a beaver because I frequently get those confused.

Jenn:

But, you know Do you think it would

Tay:

Stop it. No. That is not what I'm saying at all, Jen. Calm down.

Jenn:

I'm just like and their emblem is a badger, and I'm like, why did they get a lion and I have a badger?

Tay:

Yeah. You kinda, don't have the you you don't have the best of the best of, emblems, you know, but it's an animal. So at least it's not like a so going off in a little bit of a tangent, my high school mascot was a golden tornado.

Jenn:

Like a tornado of pee? Yes.

Tay:

Is that, like, a tomato pig into

Jenn:

the wind?

Tay:

I don't know. But The

Jenn:

crew of interns.

Tay:

Everybody has their own, like, mascots that, like, run around at, like, sports games and stuff. Yeah. Ours was a giant tornado that was golden in color. Like, it just didn't make any sense. Yes.

Jenn:

So, I'll

Tay:

I'll I'll accept the matches and

Jenn:

I'll shut up.

Tay:

See? Oh, I'm telling you. Just just be off, Eddy. Yeah. Eddy is saying that you are correct in your, tornado of piss.

Tay:

A pissnado, if you will. Also, thank you, McCoy, for, talking about the how this, this layout is fire. And, thank you, for your help in creating it, and I can't wait to learn on how to do this later. So anyway, to go back into, their emblem is a badger. The gemstone is a yellow diamond.

Tay:

The colors are yellow and black or black and yellow if you're, like, a fan of that song. You know? It corresponds with the element of earth. The significant object of Hufflepuff is the Hufflepuff cup, from, like, a Helga Hufflepuff's cup, which is actually turned into a horcrux. Famous Hufflepuffs that you might have heard of are Newt Scamander, and then also the founder of Hogsmeade was a Hufflepuff.

Tay:

So for Ravenclaw, that's me. So Ravenclaws are known, our traits. Our traits are intelligence, knowledge, curiosity, creativity, and wit. Many of you know me, I I do have a constant thirst for knowledge. I wouldn't say I'm, like, intelligent, but I constantly do want to have that knowledge and, curious about how to to, do, like, certain things or whatever.

Tay:

I don't know. Maybe I'm reading into that too much. But, anyway, my emblem or the Ravenclaw emblem is a, eagle. The gemstone for Ravenclaw is sapphires, and it's it's a I don't I don't know what that is. Is it like a a dog, or is that is that what a badger is supposed to look like?

Jenn:

It's a squirtle.

Tay:

Is it a squirtle? Okay.

Jenn:

Crazy puppy.

Tay:

The colors

Jenn:

I got distracted. I was like, what is that?

Tay:

It's okay. The colors for Ravenclaw are the, blue and bronze. It corresponds with the element of air. The significant object is Rowena Ravenclaw's diadem, which is also a horcrux. And other famous Ravenclaws, you have Luna Lovegood, late sorry.

Tay:

Lovegood, Gilderoy Lockhart, you know, because that's an intelligent sir and Ollivander. So, to go into the last house, yes, Luna is is a gangster. And, yes, Ravenclaw's emblem is an eagle, like a freedom freedom falcon as with eagle.

Jenn:

You'd think it'd be a raven.

Tay:

I think it's a little too on the nose, or I don't know. I mean, eagles are known to be, like, curious and intelligent, but, guess, like, a raven can be too. But ravens are also known to be, like, with death, so I don't know.

Jenn:

They're very smart. I actually watched the video about ravens. They're wicked smart.

Tay:

Wicked smart. Oh my god. We have wicked smart. Yeah.

Jenn:

Girl, let me tell you. We have ravens around here. I tell my kids, don't be mean to those ravens. Don't bring that that eel to my house. You might be nice to him.

Jenn:

They want your backpack. Give it to him.

Tay:

Yeah. I mean, it's named after we named Ravenclaws. Or maybe she did like eagles. Yeah. That is true.

Tay:

Thank you, Danny. I mean I mean, it could possibly also be why you have a badger because Helga Hufflepuff was just all about them badgers.

Jenn:

I like badgers. They're so cute.

Tay:

Maybe she like badger milk.

Jenn:

That makes you a lot stronger. Do you do

Tay:

you so anyway, that's house No. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Jenn:

Here's an SNL skit about, badger milk. Badger milk. Anyways, sorry.

Tay:

I just We'll talk

Jenn:

about it

Tay:

later, etcetera. Yeah. Okay. Sure. I'm so looking forward to learning about badger milk.

Tay:

So, the last house that we're gonna talk about is, Slytherin. So my other half, is, my husband, AD, and he actually is a Slytherin. So each one of, like, the main parts of, your queens of nerdom were all different houses. So, you know, it's cool. So, the traits of a Slytherin is you have ambition, leadership, self preservation, cunning, and resourcefulness.

Tay:

So I know that everybody, like, thinks that, like, all Slytherins are bad, and, yeah, sometimes, like, self preservation can't always be a good thing. Like, we were talking about yesterday on the smoke pit about how certain people were doing certain things, to look really out only for themselves. It seemed like, we were talking about Star Lord and how he was trying to take off Thanos' glove, and then, instead of, like, saving 1,000,000, he got upset because the girl that he was seeing or possibly starting to see, was dead. So that's that's a whole thing. Snowfish.

Tay:

Snowfish. So so maybe, you know, maybe Star Lord is a Slytherin. That's that's something we should think about. Where are all the Avengers in in these classes? I wonder or are these houses rather?

Tay:

But, anyway, I digress. Slytherin, their emblem is a serpent. So, yes, like, Danny said, I'm a snake, a slippery snake. I'm a snake.

Jenn:

You missed

Tay:

that. So the gemstone is a emerald. The colors are emerald, green, and silver. Danny actually thinks that star lord is a Gryffindor. You know, I would love to know why you think that, and, I I would love to read it in the comments.

Tay:

If you could throw that in there, that would be, like, super dope. I wanna know your thought process of why. Slytherin. Yes. So Slytherin, their colors are the emerald green and silver.

Tay:

It corresponds with the element of water, which I thought was interesting, because you would kinda think that, like, if your, if your, like, emblem is a snake, like, why wouldn't it be there? I don't know. I know there also are water snakes, though. So

Jenn:

But yeah. Only helpful pups are your earth, though. Yeah, they're water moccasin.

Tay:

Deadly. There you go. The significant object, that is, a part of the, Slytherin is the Salazar Slytherin's locket, which also turns out to be a horcrux. The famous, Slytherins that you guys might know is Tom Riddle aka Voldemort or he who must not be named, Dolores Umbridge, that gem of a human being, and Severus Snape. Ew.

Tay:

Yes. Cerberus all the way. Cerberus. Why I wanted to talk about this significant object is because all of the houses, the Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, and Slytherin all had horcruxes made out of their significant object. And then you had, the sword of Gryffindor be the significant object of Gryffindor.

Tay:

And funny enough is that the sword of Gryffindor can actually destroy horcruxes as we saw with the, diary of Tom Riddle in the Chamber of Secrets. And then we all saw, the sword of Gryffindor kill Nagini. Okay. So the reason why Danny thinks Star Lord is a Gryffindor is that he is brave and courageous and has more nerve than any other MCU hero. He thinks he's chivalrous and definitely daring.

Tay:

Okay. That's interesting. I can see where your brain's at for that, and I agree to some extent. I I

Jenn:

I I can do that.

Tay:

Yeah. Yeah. I definitely can

Jenn:

perfectly fits into, like, their house.

Tay:

No. And and nobody should because that's weird. Like, nobody is completely one way or the other. You know? So yeah.

Tay:

Anyway, that's the house's

Jenn:

I support that.

Tay:

Yeah? So, Jen, what's the next thing you're gonna talk about?

Jenn:

Schools. Schools. So this was by popular request from our dear friend Willie. You guys know him as Mac, aka your boy, on Smokepit. So I think this came from, him playing the new Hogwarts Legacy.

Jenn:

And he's like, oh, dang. There's like more schools out there. And I was like, yeah. There's actually a few. I know that, it's not Pottermore anymore.

Jenn:

They chain they ended up changing the website to the, Wizarding World. But, she, JK Rowling actually wrote some information. There's supposed to be a total of 11 schools, so I'll go over the ones that is published on Pottermore or Wizarding World. But, yeah. She doesn't cover all of them.

Jenn:

But, but but it's it's a growing universe that I didn't even realize. I just thought, like, there's a lot of stuff that I missed on on The Cursed child, but there's actually like, she continues to write things, and she continues to write lore and stuff. So that's off to Earth. That's freaking awesome because the fans like I I myself love that. I love when the world continues to grow.

Jenn:

So the, first school, of course, we're gonna talk about Hogwarts. He could have been sorted at 11, so maybe not. Danny. I, I Danny, I can't I can't get behind what you're saying, dude. I get it.

Jenn:

Like, I I see what you're saying. But, again, like, I I don't think I think the qualities that you have that sort you into the house, I think it's a quality that, like, comes out most in you is where they sort you. You know what I mean? So I definitely think one of those things, he's definitely, can be courageous. He has a lot of other, you know, side things going on.

Jenn:

But, yeah, I I get what you're saying.

Tay:

I mean, that also

Jenn:

goes with,

Tay:

like, the That also goes with, like, the hat. Like, it takes in consideration, like, what you actually want. And, like, I can definitely see, like, that like, like, you know, that, like, star lord would want to be a part of, being in Gryffindor because that's probably what he would have thought he would have wanted. Right? Not so much of, like, maybe he would have fit more in with Hufflepuff or, like, Slytherin, based on his attributes and qualities.

Tay:

But, like, I can definitely see, like, him getting sorted, especially at the age of 11 into Gryffindor. But, anyway, I'd address.

Jenn:

Yeah. No. Yeah. Danny Danny is down to talk about the marbles in their houses. I totally agree with Loki being from Slytherin, dude.

Jenn:

Alright. He's even got the colors right. He's already color coordinating. I love it.

Tay:

Yes. Yeah.

Jenn:

I love it. Alright. Let's, talk about, the schools. So the, Hogwarts located somewhere in the Highlands of Scotland. So all the schools I'm gonna be talking about, and some of them kinda give a reference to the places that they're at, but and other ones, they're just pretty, secretive.

Jenn:

So, Hogwarts actually takes students from all across Europe. It is known for being the stronghold of ancient magic, and they are often used to house dangerous objects, due to the enchantments and the protections that the original 4 founders have placed in the school with the intentions of protecting their students. But they use it to house dangerous objects, which the faculty, I'm sure, that you saw. I think, McGonagall and Snape, I think, were ones that kept telling Dumbledore, they're like, keep that here. Like, what are you doing?

Jenn:

Like, the students will find. But but, you know, that's what Hogwarts is known for.

Tay:

Yeah. And then you also had, like, student going to putting on. Sorry. Mhmm. I'm realizing there's a little bit of a lag with

Jenn:

us. So Yeah. Yeah. Just I'm I'm I'm lagging a little bit. Sorry, guys.

Tay:

No. It's it's totally okay. And and, Danny, you're totally not hijacking the show. We totally appreciate your comments. Definitely, like, would love to talk about that with you, like, maybe later on, like, a different show.

Tay:

You know? Maybe we can get together and actually talk about that. That would be, like, really cool. But, like, you also have That's awesome. Oh, so No.

Jenn:

No. He's like, I'm not trying to hijack your toe. I'm like, you're good, dude.

Tay:

Yeah. 100%. We love the, like, people coming in here and and and talking with us about, like, what your thoughts are because everybody's a nerd, right, in your own type of way. But, like, Snape, 100% didn't want the certain things in, like, the school, like the philosopher's zone. And he, created the his own enchantments and spells to try to stop anybody from, like, going in and, like, getting to it accidentally.

Tay:

So, like, it's it's understandable, like, why you wouldn't want that. But at least, like, he was trying to, like, do something to help.

Jenn:

Right. No. I agree. I agree. So, the you guys don't I'm gonna butcher some of these names, so, feel free to correct me in the comments of what you think they are are called.

Jenn:

But, you saw these beautiful ladies, the. Right? Remember during the There's a buzz. Fire? So, And, like, birds fly off or something else.

Jenn:

It's like, really? Okay. Not my cup of tea, but people like that. So the places that, they get students from is, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Lexeborgen, and Belgian students. They're in the, Pyrenees area.

Jenn:

Nicholas Flamel, the, great alchemist, philosopher, stone making person himself, is there or, went to school there. It's also said that, there's a large fountain, to have healing and beautifying properties. I suspect that they go swimming in there. That's what I think anyway. Probably.

Jenn:

And yeah. And the thing that they're very good at is playing chess, apparently. They whip, Hogwarts' butt every year for a long time at chess. So I know. I didn't I didn't see that one coming.

Jenn:

I was like, really? Alright. Interesting. And they don't have, like, different houses that I could see from, like, Hogwarts desk and, like, any of the, like, websites and stuff out there. So because you're just a you go to Bobette and you're Bobette and I don't know.

Jenn:

The dermstrang dermstrong. How do you say that? You say it better, Taylor. When you say it? No.

Jenn:

I don't.

Tay:

I had draw I said I said dermstrong because it sounded different. Strong. And I was like,

Jenn:

cough enough. They're actually the most secretive school, located somewhere far north in Europe in Scandinavia, and they get students from, well, Scandinavia, Norway, and Sweden. Their visitors are submitted to memory charms to erase any memories of its whereabouts.

Tay:

Oh, it's like the the the

Jenn:

men in

Tay:

black the the black the the stick. The flashy stick. The forget stick.

Jenn:

Can you imagine? Did you fleshy thing me? No. I didn't fleshy thing me. You did fleshy thing me.

Jenn:

Did you fleshy thing me?

Tay:

Yeah. AJ's in the comments. Okay. And it doesn't look like, as far as you've seen, have you seen that, like, any other school actually have houses or, like, a sorting hat type, thing? Or is Hogwarts the only one that you've seen that actually does divide its students the way it does?

Jenn:

Not that I could find. I mean, if if again, and I don't know everything, but, I mean, if somebody else has read something different, let me know. But not that I could find. And, I mean, I looked at Pottermore, and I looked at the the Wizarding World. I didn't even see fan theories honestly if there was, like, any, like, houses within the other schools.

Jenn:

So I don't know. Yeah. Sorry. Got nothing for you. Alright.

Jenn:

Now these, oh, and, one thing I wanted to tell you guys about, each of the schools are kind of known for being really good at, like, one thing. So the one, thing that, Germstrong is really good at is they put a lot of emphasis on teaching the dark arts to their students, which is good. Right? Because you saw when, Harry was kind of encouraged, bullied, harassed into making Dumbledore's army that was for defense against the dark arts. Yeah.

Jenn:

Right? It's necessary, especially in defense. I mean, you're defending yourself. You need to know how to be the, you know, attacker and defender. So yeah.

Jenn:

Alright. So Now the,

Tay:

Good question.

Jenn:

Mahutu Koro what?

Tay:

Sorry. Like, when, what is the other school? Is it, Durham Strong that went to, Hogwarts in, like, the Goblet of Fire. Is that where Victor Krum is from? It just sounds aggressive.

Tay:

Yes. Okay. And, also, it sounds aggressive.

Jenn:

Yeah. It just says

Tay:

So Danny actually said that one of the ones that you're gonna talk about later, livermorenae. Yep. That one. It actually does have 4 houses. So, EJ, if you actually do wanna know about those other houses, I'm sure that there's information out there, rabbit holes, to find about that kind of stuff.

Tay:

But thank you so much, Danny. We appreciate it.

Jenn:

Heck, yeah. Cool. Well, I didn't find it. Good on you, dude. Alright.

Jenn:

So the, Mahutu Koro is actually the, smallest of the 11 schools. They are located on a volcanic island of the, Minanami in, Iwo Jima, Japan. Their this one was actually really cool. So their robes are enchanted, to change colors as the wearer grows in skill. So they start off as a pale pink, and then they end up, golden if the student actually achieves high grades in all of their subjects.

Jenn:

And if the student actually ends up turning to the dark magic, it changes to white.

Tay:

So is that like whitesabers, how they change in color with, like, your mastery?

Jenn:

Hey. Cool. I wanna learn something. I don't wanna walk around with pink robes.

Tay:

Also, like Pink

Jenn:

robes. The pink robes.

Tay:

When Jedis go as padawans, you get different robes. You get your Jedi master robes. So, like, I guess, like, that's kind of also similar to Star Wars that they have their own robes that change.

Jenn:

Change colors? You get to upgrade a a color? But what if, like, your highest level, you don't really like that color and it clashes with you? Like, what do you do with that?

Tay:

You're grinning there.

Jenn:

Gold doesn't really go with my skin tone. Like, what would they I guess. Like, I don't like gold.

Tay:

EJ says they have pockets. Literally, I put on no. I put on my robe and I looked at AD, and I was just like, the one thing that would make this better is if it had pockets. Why doesn't it have pockets? I don't have any pockets on my person.

Tay:

I want pockets. Please just give me pockets.

Jenn:

Like, people need pockets. People need pockets. Okay? Like, more pockets the better.

Tay:

Sometimes my hands get cold, and I just wanna, like, put them in some pockets.

Jenn:

Oh, I thought you were gonna say put them under your arms like this. No. Maybe not. Alright. Now the since we talked about the smallest school, I thought it was only fair to also bring out the largest school right after.

Jenn:

So, that would, be the, Gado. Please sorry. Correct me. So it's actually, located in Uganda, Africa. It has no other address than the mountains of the moon, which I was like, oh, what a cool address to have.

Jenn:

Like, that's so poetic. Like, that is so neat. They only actually adopted wands in the recent years of their school. Many of their spells can be cast with, like, a simple hand gesture or pointing of the finger. Oh.

Jenn:

Yeah. So they're taught without wands, so that was yeah. I was I was just I was really shocked when I read about that. Instead of receiving an owl, oh, instead of, receiving an owl and they're accepted, they receive a message through a dream messenger from their headmaster or headmistress. And, usually, a a token is left in their home, and that's how they kind of, like, connect with them.

Jenn:

It's, like, through that stone, and it's, like, inscribed in everything. So

Tay:

I know.

Jenn:

Isn't that neat?

Tay:

That's pretty neat. Yeah. That is, like, super neat.

Jenn:

Yeah. Right? I'm like, especially the, the nonverbal spells, and then they don't use wands. I'm like, good lord. Like, this I mean, imagine, like, a lot of them couldn't even cast spells.

Jenn:

If they didn't have their wanderer, it wouldn't be as effective. But sounds like they probably could because the schools in Africa can do

Tay:

it. It's like ketchup.

Jenn:

Alright. So the castellobruxo, is a rainforest in Brazil. It is protected by the, kaipora, which are small creatures who are very tricky and mysterious. The former headmistress claims that they cause more trouble than Peeves actually does. So, and this school actually specializes in herbology, mazourology, and other exchange programs for students wanting to encounter other types of flora and fauna.

Jenn:

So I think this is actually where Neville Longbottom ends up going to actually get better at his, herbology.

Tay:

Like, after Hogwarts? Or What? Do you do you think he leaves to go

Jenn:

Yeah. Okay.

Tay:

Interesting.

Jenn:

I think he did because I think, eventually, he ends up, teaching. He he works under a man in Pomfrey and Hogwarts. So I

Tay:

He does?

Jenn:

Think I remember reading somewhere that he ends up going here. Yeah. He ends up going here and, like, studying more Herbology too. Study herbology too. It's legal now.

Jenn:

Study way.

Tay:

Go for it, EJ. You you know, let us know what you learned.

Jenn:

Now the, let it go. Now the, Elvrohorn morning in North America, so, has as many of its roots in, the Native American, culture. So the Native American, wizarding community are gifted in animal and plant magic, and they're also gifted in wandless magic.

Tay:

So with their hands or Again,

Jenn:

So the Americans are good at wandless magic. So the Africans so they don't have to use wands when they cast magic.

Tay:

Okay. Okay.

Jenn:

What I'd be curious to know is that, can they also do nonverbal stuff? Like, you know, like, I don't really, like, consider, like like, yeah, the movies. I'm more of me, like, the booklore. Can they cast things without? I don't know.

Jenn:

Can they? Can they just do a gesture?

Tay:

I mean well, that's what they say that the the most powerful type of magic is nonverbal. So you can do any type of magic nonverbally, but you have to train for it. And it's definitely interesting to, like, watch, like, Harry Potter, like, growing into the the older movies because you can see, like, Hermione actually does a lot of spells and doesn't say anything. So it's, like, it's really interesting to watch and and think about things like that.

Jenn:

But, like, I never found anything where it said any one particular school was good at both. There was just one that was good at 1 or the other. 1 was either good at wandless magic or one was good at, like, nonverbal, but they had to use a wand.

Tay:

So e j asked if Dumbledore was able to do nonverbal magic. And as far as, like, I've never actually researched Dumbledore like that. But he did like, remember in in I think it was new Order of the Phoenix or it might have been before that. No. It was the order shoot.

Tay:

I don't remember which movie it was. But when, he was like they were like, we're gonna take you to Azkaban. Mhmm. Because he was he was the one that was in charge or he was taking the blame for, Harry creating Dumbledore's army. And he's like, yeah.

Tay:

It's me. It's all me, man. Like, it's literally in the name. It's Dumbledore's army. It's not Harry Potter's army.

Tay:

It's Dumbledore's army. And then they're like, well, we're gonna have to do a gas man because it's illegal. And he's just like, just because I said, like, I admit fault doesn't mean that you're gonna take me to Azkaban. And then he just, like, goes over, and he just, like, claps his hands, and then, like, the phoenix makes him, like, disappear. So Right.

Tay:

Yeah. I think long story short, that was me trying to say that, like, Dumbledore didn't say anything to make that spell happen if that was a spell. That's also a thing. Like, what if he had flu powder? Or Yeah.

Tay:

We can even see. Available. Yeah.

Jenn:

Yeah. Like, he even like, when he battered Voldemort, like, he didn't always speak. Like, he would just cast. So, like, he was I mean, and really at the time, we didn't know that he had the elder one, so he's using the elder one as well.

Tay:

Mhmm. Just

Jenn:

saying. Was there ever

Tay:

a backstory of

Jenn:

how he got the elder one? One. Oh, I knew you're gonna test my brain tonight.

Tay:

I'm sorry. I have questions.

Jenn:

Oh god. I read it too.

Tay:

Somebody check me.

Jenn:

I know he defeated somebody in a battle. Okay. Who is this? It's on the tip of my tongue. Was it Grindelwald?

Jenn:

He defeated Grindelwald in a duel because Grindelwald had the elder wand. Don't ask me how Grindelwald got the wand. I don't remember that. But I'm pretty sure that he, defeated Grindelwald in the duel and took his wand, and that was the elder one. I'm pretty

Tay:

sure. Okay.

Jenn:

Alright. I'm looking I'm looking to see who checks me. I'm looking I'm looking at you, Danny.

Tay:

That Harry well, he Danny did say

Jenn:

that Harry

Tay:

was actually a nonverbal. So that yeah. Because he didn't even know he was doing magic. Like and I think because Harry's a horcrux and has Voldemort's soul in him, it was actually Voldemort who's also very powerful in nonverbal magic. I think that was Voldemort able to use Harry as an object to do what he did with the the snake.

Jenn:

Yeah. He made the glass disappear.

Tay:

Yeah.

Jenn:

And was speaking to the snake in Parkland talking. Yeah. I remember yeah. That's true. Yeah.

Tay:

Yeah. Yeah. Little things he'll think about, like, after. Yeah.

Jenn:

So Daniel, I think that's at me. What you got for me, bro? Rona's still the one. I'll run after he killed an elderly wizard in Askinen. Oh, okay.

Jenn:

I just knew how Dumbledore got it. I never I didn't remember reading about how Grindelwald got the wand. Did they say who that wizard was? I'm just curious now. Man, that the elder one wasn't asking me.

Jenn:

What a terrible place. Damn. Glad you hung in there, elder one. Hang in there, buddy. Don't let the dementors get you down.

Jenn:

Sorry. Okay. Last last last, last school. Alright. The kolle dostorstetz.

Jenn:

It's in Russia, guys. I'm trying. I'm sorry.

Tay:

That sounds right.

Jenn:

Meaning, means witchcraft. Right? Thank you. I try I try to pronounce things appropriately. So the means witchcraft, and then, means creator.

Jenn:

Creator of witchcraft. Interesting. So these badasses, this rumor is is that instead of flying around on broomsticks, they actually fly around on an on uprooted trees, totally uprooted. Can you imagine the insult

Tay:

to what? Imagine? Can you Like, why you

Jenn:

Jack. Sir, your roots your roots are getting in the way.

Tay:

Can you imagine

Jenn:

Why are you flying around on toothpick?

Tay:

Can you just imagine just sitting there in your lawn and just looking up and seeing, like, a flying tree and just being like, yeah. That checks. Only in Russia.

Jenn:

Only in Russia, my friends. Maybe, maybe they just fly, like, during tornadoes. So, really, those are witches flying around tornadoes.

Tay:

Look at us.

Jenn:

Tornadoes come gotta go. Don't know it's us. No? Say, to me, I'm I'm just wondering, like, how often do you have to, like, replace said trees? Like, are we talking like it's fresh trees all the time?

Jenn:

Like, you know, oh, I need a ride. Let me just rip this out of the ground. Because me, if he's flying overhead, I'm just gonna be, like, wet and, like, get the dirt in my eye and everything. It's great. I have thoughts.

Jenn:

I have I have deep thoughts about this. Very concerned.

Tay:

Or do they get, like, a tree, and do they make it into, like, a surfboard, and they're, like, looking like the silver surfer, like, skating like, surfboarding around on a on a tree, or is it, like, all just a whole tree? Whole tree yeah.

Jenn:

It's a whole tree.

Tay:

Air it's aerodynamic. Oh. Oh, with leaves and all, branches and all.

Jenn:

Yes. That's what the picture I told you. That's what the picture showed. I was like, what? Like, a whole tree.

Jenn:

Like

Tay:

A whole tree.

Jenn:

Don't get that pine tree. Like, you can't use pine trees because they chafer a little bit, so you have to make sure you get, like, you know never mind. I'm gonna stop right there. I'm just saying. I mean Pine bark.

Tay:

I'm just I'm just gonna stop there. So, like, eventually, the tree does die. Right? Because trees need nutrients and soil. Me.

Tay:

And and I just and water to, you know, like, survive. So Maybe maybe they can't

Jenn:

for it. Like, they get home, they replant it, root it back up. I don't know. Maybe it's like a good symbiotic relationship. I I really I really can't say.

Tay:

Like Avatar where they put their hair into the tail and it's, like, tentacle y? But it's with the tree. They put, like, a splinter in their leg, and they're like, yeah. Maybe.

Jenn:

A magical splinter. It's like

Tay:

So, anyway

Jenn:

I have so many thoughts. Okay. Sorry.

Tay:

So our last topic of the night, now that we are talking about trees, a whole tree in the air, A flying tree.

Jenn:

A whole tree.

Tay:

Our last topic that we're gonna talk about is the different theories that I have researched and came across that, I wanted to share. Now, of course, there are so many of them, and some of them are really wild, and some of them, like, actually make sense. So I only took a couple because I didn't wanna make this, like, a very long podcast, obviously, because, like, why do you yeah. Anyway, if you do, wanna know more about different theories, you can always, message us on the Queens of Nerdem, you know, Facebook page, or you can do some research on your own and come to us with the information. We can tell you our thoughts about it.

Tay:

But the different theories, that I'm gonna be talking about, the first one is that Harry Potter is actually just Star Wars. Now Jen herself actually showed me this. It was on Instagram, but was it a TikTok, or was it a or was it an Instagram reel that we saw? Do you remember?

Jenn:

It was a it was a it was a TikTok reel, I think.

Tay:

Of course it was. Yeah. So, so this one is all about how Harry Potter is actually Star Wars. So, Harry Potter and Luke are both orphans, and they're placed in the care of their aunt and uncle. So I'm just gonna lead you with that first step.

Tay:

Right? Then the person that abandoned them actually comes back and then teaches them, like, the force or magic or the entity that they will learn for the rest of their lives now. Right? And then while they, the more that they learn about magic, they, feel like something is different inside of them. Like, there's something that's weird.

Tay:

So then there's a weird tension between, like, the main protagonist and the main female. So for for Star Wars, you have Luke and Leia, and for Harry Potter, you have Harry and Hermione. Now, like, there's always that weird tension, but they never actually ended up getting together because the lead female always goes for the other, male that is the best friend of the main protagonist. So you have

Jenn:

The comic relief.

Tay:

Solo. He makes videos. Yes. The the scruffy comic relief, is is the I know. Person that they ended up, you know, being with.

Tay:

Then they learn about a lord something or another, and, that's actually the person that killed their parents. For Star Wars, it ends up being Lord Vader who actually is his dad, just like the dark side of his dad. And then for Harry Potter, it's lord Voldemort that killed his, mom and dad. And then these heroes are just naturally also good at flying and, like, able to find specifically small, things. So for Luke, you have the opening of the death star where he shoots his, like, laser stay on target, is something that I always say when I'm just, like, doing, like, a task and, like, stay on target.

Jenn:

Stay on target.

Tay:

But for Harry Potter, it's the snitch. Right? When he was doing, oh god. What is it called? Quidditch that.

Tay:

So that was the first one. Okay. Is that

Jenn:

Words are heard.

Tay:

Yes. So that was the first one that Harry Potter and Star Wars are just very similar. And and Danny said it too is that, like, Aragorn, which is a different book that is a trilogy that they just came out with another book for, is just like a bigger Star Wars rip off. But I actually enjoyed there was a movie, that they made off of this that I actually enjoyed, that I would have liked to see more of, but I also haven't seen it in years.

Jenn:

I haven't. I'll take your word for that, Danny. I haven't finished that one. I did like the book, and then I I saw the movie. I think I got a little bored with the book near the end.

Tay:

I think it's It was originally a trilogy, and literally and, like, a month ago, they came out with the 4th book just randomly. Same author, same everything, same premise. Like, it's just the 4th book. Right. So that's interesting.

Tay:

So the second theory that I'm gonna talk about is that Harry Potter and Sirius Black are actually related. Now in the movies, you're always, like, led to believe that

Jenn:

Sirius Black

Tay:

Girl, I told you when I was researching these, I was like, oh my god. But, anyway

Jenn:

Ma'am? Ma'am? Lily? Lily, we need to talk. Lily.

Tay:

No. No. No. No. No.

Tay:

It's not even anything like that. So, literally, like, in the movies, you are led to see that, like, Harry Potter is the godson of Sirius Black. And now that doesn't mean that they're actually related. It just means that, like, if anything were to happen to Lily or James Potter, Harry should have been placed in the care of Sirius Black. However, he was in prison in Azkaban because everyone thought that it was him that gave up.

Tay:

Lily and James Potter and he was the one that, like, got them killed. So in the order of the phoenix, you see the house tree of the house of black. Right? And they kinda zoom in on it a little bit? Mhmm.

Jenn:

Yeah. I remember that. K.

Tay:

So Uh-huh. They zoom in to this part where there is a, like, blacked out part, and then, like, it splits off and the those are, like, blacked out people. Like, someone, like, threw, like, a fire spell or something at it, and then then it like, like, you cannot see, like, the person's face or anything. You know what I'm talking about?

Jenn:

Right.

Tay:

Okay.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Tay:

So, on the tree, there is a Doria black and a Charles Potter that had an unnamed son. Now could that unnamed son actually be James Potter? They were redacted. Yes. It's part of the classifieds.

Jenn:

They were redacted. It's true.

Tay:

Right. So black marker. So that would mean that, like, Harry and Sirius Black are actually blood relatives. Now they would be, like, uncle and and nephew or whatever, but it could have happened that way. But, like, once somebody in the black family marries somebody that is not a pure blood, you are disowned, from the black family.

Tay:

Yeah. So Yeah. Maybe that's what it was. So, the next theory that we're gonna

Jenn:

talk about I get behind that. I was just like, what? Mhmm.

Tay:

I'm I'm just gonna keep on just, like, throwing little, like, nuggets in your brain. So the next thing that we're gonna talk about is how Neville Longbottom processing. Neville Longbottom just needed the right wand. So Neville in his 1st years of school is always messing up. On his spells, on his potions, things are being blown up, and you just like, it's never correct.

Tay:

Now you hear that Neville says that he's actually using his father's wand in order to honor him, because, like, he wanted to, like, he he was under the care of his grandmother, and, like, they had his father's wand. So then they decided to, like, Neville decided to take his father's wand to try to honor him. However, as you remember in the first Harry Potter, the wand chooses the wizard. Right? You have to be compatible together to actually use the wand correctly.

Tay:

So if Neville is actually using his father's wand, maybe that's why it's not correct. And then you do see that the wand breaks, and then Neville finally finds his wand. And then from thereon, Neville's skills just improve immensely, and he defends himself against death eaters themselves. The 3rd cousin twice removed on his mother's side. Yeah.

Tay:

Just like that.

Jenn:

Still related. Still related.

Tay:

So, there is, like, that theory is that, like, Neville just needed to find his right wand, and now he's, like, an actual powerful wizard. And it wasn't that he was just not smart or, like, good at being a wizard. It was just because he didn't have his right wand. So, there's a theory out there that Snape actually killed Hedwig. During the battle of the 7 Potters, you see that Hagrid and the actual real Harry are, like, flying off.

Tay:

And then all of a sudden, you see somebody, like, come through in the Death Eater mask, and, Longbottom was my guy, Paws. Yeah. Then all of a sudden, you see Hedwig come fly through. Then you see somebody in a mask come fly and, like, take out Hedwig with the, killing core killing curse. So what the theory is is that Snape actually was the one that killed Hedwig.

Tay:

And this was because

Jenn:

Yeah.

Tay:

Hedwig was actually the one that, gave away the real Harry Potter's position. And he even says that, after he lands, and he lands at the Weasley Manor. And they're like, what gave you away? And he's like, I'm pretty sure it was Hedwig. So Hedwig was possibly killed because Snape killed him to try to protect Harry even further.

Tay:

So that was, like, a theory that was put out

Jenn:

there He knew.

Tay:

Because Snape was always out trying to, protect, Harry and, like, even with accidentally, like, slicing George's, like, ear. Right? Op

Jenn:

sec. That's a good one. Yeah. I think I I I remember reading that one once before, and I am I have to go back and watch it because then I'm like, oh, yeah. Makes sense.

Jenn:

Because, you know, I mean, he would have been with the Death Eaters, I think, at this point. Right? And so he, yeah, could have very well been there and probably saw because Hedwig was trying to protect Harry. So he's like, it sucked, though, because, you know, she's trying to protect him, but

Tay:

she's getting in the way

Jenn:

at the same time. So

Tay:

Yes. Yeah. It sucks. And that's why and as like, much of it, like, sucked to, like, think about it, and you're like, that's rough. It's really rough.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Tay:

So, so we're gonna get into a a really deep one now. Okay? So prepare yourself. Okay. Coming.

Tay:

So, there's a theory out there that the Dursleys actually never hated Harry. Now, why, you might ask, is because horcruxes affect the mood of those around them. As you saw with the locket, as you saw with the diary of Tom Riddle, both horcruxes both made people do some really weird things and make them, like, really, like, start to nag at each other. When they had the locket when they took it from Dulor or Sunbridge, like, Ron, like, started, like, arguing and getting into, like, really bad, like, vibes with Harry. Right?

Tay:

So if affect the moods of those around them and Harry is a horcrux, what if the Dursleys never actually, like, hated him? They just had their moods affected because of him. Yeah.

Jenn:

I can get behind that, especially his uncle, man. I think his his aunt, Petunia, I think she actually cared for him, but she was just trying to support her husband. Yeah. His uncle probably was more susceptible to it, if that's the case. Because I think near the end, I think, Dudley there's a, a cutscene, or a scene that they cut out from, is it Dudley Howell?

Jenn:

He was leaving. I can't remember. But Dudley, like, and him, like, actually, like, got along and, like, said goodbyes and stuff. And I was like, aw. Still don't like you, Dudley, but, you know, you're redeeming yourself.

Jenn:

Continue. But, yeah, I can see that. Maybe yeah. I get it. Yeah.

Jenn:

Is there more? I like it. Yes. Keep them coming.

Tay:

Okay. So, another, theory is that the tale of the 3 brothers keeps repeating itself. So the original tale of the 3 brothers is the one that you heard from Jen. However, now, it just keeps repeating itself. So the tale of the 3 brothers now is with Voldemort, being so power hungry that he asked death for the elder wand because he wants to be the most powerful wizard.

Tay:

So Voldemort wants the elder wand. Mhmm. Snape, he has the love of his life die before, like, anything can really, like, happen Mhmm. With her. So his love for Lily, which means that he would have wanted the resurrection stone to try to bring her back and, spend more time with her.

Tay:

And then Harry would've just wanted to get the fuck away from death. So he would've had the invisibility cloak, that he would have passed on to Right. His son just as the invisibility cloak from his shoot. Who had the invisibility cloak before Harry? Was that Sirius Black, or was it was it

Jenn:

His dad did, James.

Tay:

Okay. Okay. It's James. So, so then how did they get, like, wrapped in underneath the tree? So who had it?

Tay:

Because his dad's dead.

Jenn:

I don't know.

Tay:

As much as that sounded really bad. Like anyway Of course. So all I'm saying is that, like, I remember that his dad did have it, but, like, someone passed it down to Harry from his dad, but it would have been from, like, father to son just like the story said. So the the repeating itself of the, the tale of the 3 brothers is what that theory was, and that those were now the 3 brothers.

Jenn:

So I really like that theory because mostly because of Harry's ending because Harry and, baristas are, if you will, if you go with the story, greets death like an old friend. Like, he

Tay:

Mhmm.

Jenn:

Goes into the Forbidden Forest alone, and then he, you know, ends up opening up the you know, you guys saw the movie. And to me, that's yeah. He greets stuff like an old friend, and he goes there even, you know, with all of his loved ones. Like, they'll they'll be with him until the end, which I thought was really cool. Like, I I think that's probably my favorite part about that theory is, like, Harry's ending with it.

Tay:

Yeah.

Jenn:

Present Harry's

Tay:

That is super funny.

Jenn:

I agree. There you go. Present Harry's it's it's solved. That's how it got under the tree, Tay.

Tay:

No. So Danny actually said that Dumbledore was the one that gave Harry the invisibility cloak. So thank you again, Danny, for, being the knowledgeable one in the, to to help us. We super appreciate it. So, between the I have 3 more theories.

Tay:

So, one of them was that the Barty Crotch junior, Bill Weasley, and Percy Weasley all use time turners. In the Prisoner of Azkaban, it was said that taking 12 owls was, like, for the the classes was impossible. And the only way that Hermione did it was she was able to travel through time with the Time Turner. So can it be thought that maybe they also use Time Turners because it was mentioned that, like, the 3 of them also did their 12 hours their 12 owls, like, at the same time, that same school year, at Hogwarts. So I thought that was interesting.

Tay:

I

Jenn:

think I read somewhere that there is more than one time turner.

Tay:

Which would support this theory.

Jenn:

So I believe it.

Tay:

Yeah.

Jenn:

And the story of, Harry Potter and their Cursed Child because they have a time turner. I don't think it's I'm not sure if it's the one that Hermione used, so I think there's more than one. Scary things, Luz. Interesting. Interesting.

Tay:

I like it. So the second to last one that I'm gonna talk about is that the, Triwizard port key. Like, how does it transfer Cedric Diggory? So as we remember, the port key, only transfers people that actually touch it. Because, like, everybody has to be touching the port key, and then they all, like, swiveled around in the, Goblet of Fire and and, went to the the games.

Tay:

Then that's when you, like, first hear about Viktor Krum and the Irish, giant elf thing. Not elf, the Irishman. Leprechaun. That's what I'm trying to think

Jenn:

of. Yeah. No. I know what you're talking about.

Tay:

So everybody had to touch the the the, the key to actually transport itself. However, when Cedric got transported in at the end, after the the maze, he wasn't touching the port key because he was dead. Mhmm. So the reason why people think that this is able to happen is because Cedric has died, and he is now an object. He has no soul.

Tay:

And that's how he's able to grab like, Harry's able to grab his body and transport it with him because he doesn't have Cedric actually touch the cup itself because he is no longer an actual living person. And the cup can transport, like, you and your objects that you have with you. So that's how that happened, which is super sad, but a theory nonetheless.

Jenn:

God, it got dark with the last one. All I could see is Cedric dead. I'm like,

Tay:

oh. So there's there's one there's one other one that, I wanted to talk about real quick, and then we'll we're gonna wrap it up. Okay. So the Triwizard Tournament, the participants, they're actually signed up, and it's using a variant of the unbreakable vow. The reason why this is a theory is because Harry can never quit.

Tay:

Like, they never allowed him to quit. They were trying to think of ways to get him out of, of actually doing the the tournament itself, but they couldn't because there was this weird spell around it. So there's a theory that it's a variant of, the unbreakable bow, and no one actually talks about, like, what happens if you break the Triwizard tournaments like that contract. So that's why people think it's the unbreakable vow or at least a variant of it.

Jenn:

Yeah. I can get behind that. I think that I mean, I don't think that people want to like, the students don't wanna dishonor their school. You know? It's supposed to be, like, you know, a very, like, prestigious thing.

Jenn:

Like, there's you know, out of how many hundreds of students that, you know, you get picked. You get to represent your school and, you know, show off your talents and everything. So there's that. But, yeah, I I I get you. They didn't really talk too much about it, like, how he couldn't do it.

Jenn:

I just know that I think that was one of the first times we actually, like, could see, like, Dumbledore get mad at Harry, and I was just like, oh.

Tay:

That was really bad. It was really funny that that happened because I don't know if you've seen it, but there is, like, a meme that's going around. Such a no. That, there's, like, the book versus the movie. And the book says that, like, Dumbledore calmly asked Harry, like, why he put his name in the Goblet of Fire.

Tay:

And in the movie, you have Dumbledore, like, running at Harry, like, very angrily and aggressively being like, did you put your name in the Goblet of Fire? Like, sir, I need you to calm down.

Jenn:

Mister Gebden, please calm down. Mister Gebden, please calm down. Little Kida.

Tay:

I don't know why you are so upset, but calm down.

Jenn:

You go.

Tay:

But that was if you're not hearing Okay. He's just like, good luck, sir. But we have

Jenn:

Dishonor on you. Dishonor on your cow.

Tay:

Dishonor on your Dishonor your family. Even

Jenn:

your cow. Don't bring dishonor on on Daisy. She works really hard. Sorry.

Tay:

Damn, Eric. Always with always with the laughs, man. You always get it.

Jenn:

Love it. Love it.

Tay:

Alright. So we are on the final shots and thoughts part of the night. So, I just wanted to say happy holidays to everybody, and we hope that you have a great New Year. The queens will actually be back on January 6th, and we're gonna be doing a what if season 2 wrap party with, our very own Blac from, Smoke Pit. So keep your eye out on for that.

Tay:

And for information on, how that's gonna be done, we don't know yet if we're gonna be doing it, on a Facebook live or if we're going to be doing a Patreon exclusive. I don't remember if we discussed that yet or not. But we will keep you guys in tuned, so you will know, like, what we do. But, again, like, the holidays when you're separated from your family, it's really hard. So, you know, you have lots of great people in the Queen's Facebook group and even in DFPN in general.

Tay:

Please reach out to somebody, and and don't suffer in silence. Our Facebook group actually had to go private, and I wanted to discuss that real quick. So we had some content pop up on our, well, very vaguely vague. It's called be vague. So our Facebook has turned into a private group, and it's just because there is content being popped up on it that we did not want on it.

Tay:

But fear not. We are still always welcoming people. Your

Jenn:

attacked.

Tay:

Yes. We were attacked.

Jenn:

We were under attack. Attacked by by boobies and things. Sorry.

Tay:

Mail. I said vague. But, yes, we had, some videos that were not so savory and nothing to do with nerds, pop up on our Facebook group. So we just wanted to go ahead and make our group private. That doesn't mean that we're not welcoming people.

Tay:

We are always welcoming people, just not bots. We do have, like, questions now to try to alleviate that. So please share, to your, friends and other people that you might think that are wanting to be a part of the world. Nerd. That's my dad.

Tay:

Hey, dad. And I have booby traps. Booby traps.

Jenn:

That's what I said booby traps.

Tay:

So we can get them coming. Yes. But, next year is going to be so great. I cannot wait for it. There's a lot of great things in store, and, we just, like, hope that you continue to work with us as we're growing and becoming what we really wanna be.

Tay:

And we can't thank you enough for being here and, sticking with us, for our, wizarding world deep dive and, and such. And with that note, Jenn, are you ready to peace out?

Jenn:

I am. Thanks, everybody, for showing up. Appreciate you.

Tay:

Peace.

Ep 7: "Wizarding World Deep Dive"
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