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Ep. 5: "Hogwarts Heroes"

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Tay:

Alright. And hack. Welcome, everybody. It is 5 o'clock my time, 8 o'clock EST, whatever o'clock your time. It is time for episode 5 of queens of joy.

Jenn:

It is time. It is time. Alright. I'm Jen.

Tay:

And I'm Marvelous Tay.

Jenn:

The Marvelous Tay. Marvelous. Alright. Welcome to the United States Department of Nerds, USDN for short. We are the home of the Queen of Nerddom podcast.

Jenn:

This is the perfect safe place for all nerds to come hang out, learn, and share. Guys, I don't know if we've said this before, but please don't worry if you don't know a lot about the stuff that we talk about. We're here to share knowledge and to learn and grow and have fun. I certainly don't know everything. Tay, do you know everything?

Tay:

Absolutely not. I'm learning as I'm running sometimes. Yeah. You

Jenn:

know everything? Tay knows everything. No.

Tay:

No. So what's I know?

Jenn:

Girl, same. But just kidding. But if you do know a lot, come and share your knowledge with us. Okay?

Tay:

Hell, yeah. And here's our intro.

Jenn:

Oh,

Tay:

I'm not pressing it. Jeff, it's all you. Alright. It's time for our shot o'clock because I'm the hacker clock. It is also shot o'clock.

Jenn:

Stop that.

Tay:

Okay. Yeah. Let me put

Jenn:

my shot. Okay. Should that

Tay:

be a shot glass? I will be talking about, my shot glass and what I will be drinking. So I am drinking a Ciroc pomegranate. I am drinking it in the Halloween horror nights 2017 shot glass, which is in Universal Orlando when I got this, which is also, you guessed it, where Hogwarts is. So that's why I'm drinking it out of this cup.

Tay:

Glass. Shot glass. What are you drinking?

Jenn:

I think I'll I love it. I love it. I wanted to try the jason orange. Girl, when it says it's orange, it is ridiculously orange.

Tay:

It's delicious. Alright. So this show goes to health and making time for yourself. Yeah. Absolutely.

Jenn:

Cheers. I love that.

Tay:

Yeah. You did that to yourself.

Jenn:

It didn't even fit into my shot glass. I'm like, how big is this? Damn it. Anyways, it's very orangey. I like it.

Jenn:

Okay. So, today, we will be discussing, Luna Lovegood, Hermione Granger, Severs Snape, and Neville Longbottom. What? I know you guys didn't know about the other 2, but yes. So those, everybody who voted, thank you so much.

Jenn:

We always appreciate your inputs when we put those polls out. So, we don't leave them up for too long because Tay and I are busy and got work to do on our podcast. So, whenever you guys vote, we always take that into, consideration when we do these things because we like to do them with you. Yay. And just remember, here at USDN, I know.

Jenn:

We are of the people, for the people, and by the people. Boom. Boom. Boom. So, the other thing I wanna talk about is, you know, I love the information that we're presenting today again.

Jenn:

It merely scrapes the surface a lot of the information that's out there. We try not to go down rabbit holes if we possibly can, but this is probably gonna be a long podcast, guys, just because whenever you talk about Harry Potter, it's a lot. So sorry if we lose you along the way or you're like, wow, this is really long. It's gonna be a little long, guys. So hang in there with us.

Jenn:

We got lots of cool stuff to talk about with these characters that, Tay, I'm sure you can agree that we absolutely adore.

Tay:

Cutting it down to what we have now was a lot. Alright. So, as we said, there are 2 people. Yeah. There are 2 people that were voted by you guys and 2 that were our, favorites that we decided to do on our own.

Tay:

So the first one that we're gonna talk about is our, first choice, by our fans, which is Luna Lovegood. So Luna Lovegood, I'm a tell you about her. It's not gonna be a lot, but it's gonna have some information out there for you. So she was born on 13th February 1981. Yeah.

Tay:

She's an only child. Her mother died at the age of 9, while experimenting with some spells. Luna was actually the witness to this. This left her to be raised by her father, who was the editor of the Quibbler. So she attended Hogwarts from 1992 to 1999 and was sorted into the Ravenclaw.

Tay:

By the way, I am also a Ravenclaw. Oh, there we go. I'm also a Ravenclaw. So, it was, like, super awesome to talk about her. She's only 1 year behind Harry and, his peeps.

Tay:

He, she's one of the, ones that actually noticed the theandrels, on her first day due to seeing her mother die, AD says, as it should be. During her years at Hogwarts, she was teased for her strange behavior and her odd beliefs and got coined the nickname, loony lovegood. She became friends with Ginny Weasley who was the same year as her, rabbit holes. Right. Okay.

Tay:

So, during her

Jenn:

role here,

Tay:

she became one of the few that believed Harry that Voldemort was back from, the dead, because everyone thought he was gone gone. So she believed Harry when he said after the Triwizard tournament that he was back. This kind of got her into the underwings and good graces of Harry and his trio or his two friends, the trio. She was then invited into the

Jenn:

Yeah. The trio. Yeah. The trio

Tay:

into, Dumbledore's army. This is taught by Harry Potter, and this is the practice defense against, death eaters. This is all due to him believing and saying that, Voldemort was back. Luna was one of the she persuade she persuaded. Sorry.

Tay:

Persuaded. She persuaded her father, to publish the interview that reader Rita Skeeter, did with Harry, on the fact that Voldemort was back, and this actually got more people to believe that Voldemort was back. When Harry planned to go to the Ministry of magic due to his vision that Sirius was being tortured by Voldemort, Luna is the one that offers the theandrels as the we fly, of course, you know, that part of the movie, of when they were trying to discuss of how they were gonna get there. She participated in the Battle of the Department of Mysteries in 1996 and protected Ron and Ginny. Ron was underneath, like, a confusion spell that, one of the death eaters hit him with, and Ginny, broke her ankle.

Tay:

So she protected both of them and then eventually actually guided them to safety where Ron and Neville actually were. So during her 5th year, Luna was invited into, professor Slughorn Christmas party by Harry as his friend. His, like, date, but it was a friendly way. She temporarily becomes the commenter for Quidditch that year, and then she participated in the Battle of the Astronomy Tower alongside Neville, Jenny, Ron, and Hermione. During her 6th year, she attended Bill and Fleur's wedding with her father.

Tay:

You could see her in that classic yellow dress. She immediately was able to recognize Harry, who was actually under the use of Polyjuice Potion. This wasn't actually in movies. This was in the book. Harry wasn't actually, like, himself.

Tay:

He was, using polyjuice potion to look like a Weasley cousin, but, Luna automatically knew it was him, which I thought was, like, pretty cool. Luna was one of the ones that tried to steal the sword of Gryffindor for Harry, with Neville and, Ginny to help with the horcruxes, because they believe that was how you were going to destroy them. So she was one of the one that, tried to do that. She ended up getting caught by Severus and was sent to Luna got the site. It's what AD said.

Tay:

Yeah. She does.

Jenn:

So does. Absolutely. Yeah.

Tay:

She does. So Severus actually was the one that caught her and then put her into detention with, what's the big Hagrid. Thank you. K. My brain.

Tay:

She also co led the, Dumbledore's army, which had ended, but she, like, was one of the ones that, like, remade it happen again, when Hogwarts was underneath the control of Baltimore as Snape as headmaster. We'll get into that in a second as to why that's so interesting. K. So, I love Snape, and I'm so sorry. Cool.

Tay:

So

Jenn:

be sorry.

Tay:

Luna was on her way, home from the Christmas party, on her 6th year when she was kidnapped by death eaters, due to her, like, her and her father's, like, activity, with, like, the rebellion, if you will, but was actually freed by Dobby, who's a free house elf. RIP, Dobby. I love you. I'm so sorry. And this was in 1998.

Tay:

She then stayed at the shell cottage until she returned to Hogwarts to to, participate in the final battle of the second wizarding war war. At the battle of Hogwarts, Harry, Ron, and Hermione go looking for the item that once belonged to a Ravenclaw founder. Luna was actually the one that mentioned and, the lost diadem of, the Ravenclaw. And her and Harry went to go searching for, the actual diadem in the Ravenclaw common room. During the battle, Luna actually fought Bellatrix, which isn't what was in the actual movie.

Tay:

But in the book, Luna fought Bellatrix alongside Hermione and Ginny. In the movie, all you'll see is Ginny and her mom fighting Bellatrix, after her mom calls her, you bitch. Love that scene.

Jenn:

Not my daughter, you bitch. You bitch.

Tay:

So after leaving school, Luna, became a famous dude, that should have been in the movie. Yes. Absolutely. Black said it best. Like, AD, you're completely correct.

Tay:

It should have been in the movie. I think it would have been totally awesome cinematically, but it wasn't. So moving on.

Jenn:

Reason why it shouldn't have been. You know?

Tay:

I know. They had the time. They had the time. Anyway, so Luna became a famous, wizarding naturalist. Yeah.

Tay:

Luna is awesome, and we really don't get to see that much. And, so after leaving the school, she became a famous wizarding naturalist and traveled the world in search of strange creatures. So she discovers and classifies many species. This is when she meets Ralph Scamander. This is the grandson of Newt Scamander.

Tay:

So if you've seen the, the Where to Find Them. What is fantastic beast. There we go. Fantastic beast and where to find them. Fantastic beast.

Tay:

Yes. I'm sorry. Newt Scamander. This is his grandson. They marry and then they have 2 twin sons.

Tay:

A couple of fun facts that I wanted to talk about with her is that at Hogwarts, Quidditch matches, Luna actually supports Gryffindor against any other house except for Ravenclaw. And to show her support, like in the movie, you see this, to show her support for Gryffindor, she actually wears that head shaped lion, that roars. So you can see this in the movie when, Gryffindor and Slytherin, were doing a Quidditch match together, and she was wearing her lion head. So that's what you see in the movie, and that's what the books are talking about.

Jenn:

Mhmm.

Tay:

And then to show her support for Ravenclaw, she wears an eagle hat with flapping wings. Hades says, oh, yeah. I remember. Hey, Kim. What up?

Tay:

So Harry

Jenn:

What's up, Kim?

Tay:

Harry names his daughter Lily Luna after her. And Luna is actually the only living person, that is named after one of Harry's children. I thought that was pretty interesting. And the last thing that I wanna talk about the last thing I wanna emphasize on my, fun facts that I found was the, plum earrings that Luna wears in Harry Potter and the Order of Phoenix were actually made by, Evanna Lynch herself, which is actually the actress that, plays Luna Lovegood. So, she made the plum earrings as well as the bracelet that she wore in the shape of Luna's Patronus in Harry Potter and the, half blood Prince.

Tay:

So that is Luna Lovegood.

Jenn:

Oh, Luna. You know, I think my favorite part about Luna is definitely with the, the therestrials when, you know, in the beginning, you always think that the, like, carriages are just magically being drawn, but it turns out that they're not. Like these skeleton looking winged pegasus are pulling them and they're not, and then I love how Harry, like, sees them and Luna's like, oh, I've seen him. I see him too, Harry Potter. And I was like, what?

Jenn:

I love that.

Tay:

Yeah. And he thinks that she's just crazy. Normalizes it for Harry. I think that And he's like, oh, this is my the new norm. And she's, like, one of his only friends that's outside of Gryffindor.

Tay:

That is, like, one of his best friends. All of his other friends are really like, in the Gryffindor, but, like, she's in Ravenclaw, but they're still, like, really good friends. So it was all it was all cool information

Jenn:

for me to find out. I love that. Yeah. I love that.

Tay:

Okay.

Jenn:

Are you ready? You ready to talk about Hermione?

Tay:

Absolutely. I am.

Jenn:

Alright. So miss Reminding Granger, let's talk about her. So she was born September 19, 1979. Her wand is a 10 and 3 quarter inch vine wood with a dragon heartstring core.

Tay:

Oh.

Jenn:

So interesting thing. Right? So here's an interesting thing, about Hermione is that when she found out that she was going to Hogwarts, she actually began, studying before she even went to Hogwarts. She actually learned all the spells in her spell book by heart, and she was actually even to perform a few spells at Now this is really important.

Tay:

Do you guys

Jenn:

know that they did not get their wands yet?

Tay:

Yeah. That's wild. And so Yeah. That makes so much more sense than in the first movie when she meets Harry Potter in the cart, and then she does the oculus repair on his glasses. And why she was able to do that and know that, and when, Ron does his with the bottom bottom bellows, whatever, it turned this fat rat yellow or something like that, and then it turned into a glass.

Tay:

She's like, I don't know that one. Mhmm. So, yeah, it was all very cool.

Jenn:

Was. So, she even, purchased several other books to, like, further her understanding of the wizarding world because, you know, as you know, that she came from nonmagical parents. So she wanted to make sure that she had equal, if not more knowledge than her the pure blood or, half blood classmates that she was getting ready to, be with. So she was, as you all know, was sorted into Gryffindor, and it was actually questioned by a lot of people. And I actually question this myself, why she wasn't sorted into Ravenclaw.

Jenn:

With all of them all. Right? And Hermione actually exactly, she's super smart. Not that Gryffindors aren't smart, but, you know, Ravenclaws are definitely known to be known to be more studious. Yeah.

Jenn:

Mhmm. And she actually alludes to this when she's on the Hogwarts Express, and she's like, Gryffindor sounds by far the best. So I think that's, as you guys all know, whenever, the sorting hat's on your head, it also takes into consideration what you choose, who you want to be a part of, and I think that's why Hermione ultimately got sorted into Gryffindor. Okay. So I'm gonna kinda go book by book, all the things that Hermione did that I think is absolutely amazing.

Jenn:

Try not to make it boring. So, and the first Harry Potter book, which is set in 1991, so as we talked about, Hermione demonstrated her knowledge and talent with her magic that was beyond most of the other students as you saw. She soon proved to be the best in all of her classes. She was very eager to please professors, and she also liked to help others learn. But it it kinda came across in, like, a bossy way, which is in the beginning.

Jenn:

So that kind of annoyed a lot of people, and it was really difficult for her to make friends. Yeah.

Tay:

Because he wants to be friends with the teacher's pet. I was the teacher's pet. I know. I know. It's a you're like, no.

Jenn:

I wanna be friends with you. It's a bossy. And one of the people that she helped, a lot was Neville Longbottom. Keep that in the back of your mind. So Hermione Hermione was very strict with the school rules, and she also tried to prevent other students from, getting into trouble, and she followed, Harry and Ron when they were, leaving Gryffindor Tower to duel, Draco Malfoy.

Tay:

Mhmm.

Jenn:

So they they were chased by Filch. Now some of these things are in the book, not the movie. Be warned. But, Filch, who was the, this the ground

Tay:

cat. Right?

Jenn:

He was tipped off by Malfoy. Yeah. Yeah. The one. Who is he?

Jenn:

Who is he on Game of Thrones, guys?

Tay:

Oh, I don't know.

Jenn:

He's the one that guarded the tower. Anyways, the river. I can't remember. It'll come to me later. So, anyways, they ran into the 3rd floor corridor, which is actually forbidden to students, and that's when they first came face to face with Fluffy.

Jenn:

So The

Tay:

3 headed dog.

Jenn:

Alright. I know Fluffy is, service or a 3 headed dog or a 3 headed dog. Exactly.

Tay:

We go. Thank you, Rob.

Jenn:

Frey. Rob, bro. You're the best, dude. Isn't it coming to me later, and I'm gonna be like, damn it. That's right.

Jenn:

Walter Frey. So same same guy plays, Filch in, this movie. So, anyways, they came face to face with Fluffy. So later on, Hermione argued that her spying on them was to their benefit because she saw that Fluffy was actually standing on a trapdoor and probably likely guarding something. Ron and Harry did not notice this initially.

Jenn:

I'm sure they got really sidetracked as I would. Like, well, I can send 3 and then talk. My god. Yeah. So good thing Hermione was around for that one, dude.

Jenn:

So now during the mountain troll incident, this is actually where the trio's friendship actually solidified. Now, this mountain troll, as we all know, at the end of the movie, was actually led into the school by, professor Quirrell. Hermione had been in the bathroom crying because, Ron was saying some pretty not so nice things about her, and she was upset. So, once they heard the brown girls in there and they either find him in there, they went in to rescue her. Yeah.

Jenn:

Yes. Yeah. I know. You know, all the signs kinda port point to it, and you're like, oh, that's my Makes sense. That's my god.

Jenn:

Yeah. So so this is where their friendship solidified. So here is professor McGonigal, Snape, and Coral arrive at the scene and see Hermione, covered for, Ron and Harry, claiming that, she was fighting the troll because she thought that she could handle it because, she read a great deal about them. And Ron and Harry had merely come to help, rest help her escape. So so she took up for them and covered for them with the professors.

Jenn:

They were best friends since then.

Tay:

Aw.

Jenn:

Now from there, I know. There you go. My friends, I love it. So from there, they asked she also helped Hagrid with Norbert. So if you remember Norbert, he was, a little dragon that, Hagrid had illegally procured.

Jenn:

Okay?

Tay:

From a friend that's a bar.

Jenn:

Is illegal to have a, yeah, a friend that's a friend, Hagrid. How many times has he still thinks it's, like, an illegal, like, a magical animal? Oh, dear, Hagrid. Every single time.

Tay:

Every time.

Jenn:

So the every single yeah. Every time. So the 3 of them helped, Hagrid care for Norbert, until he was discovered. And then Hermione and Harry actually ended up smuggling Norbert out, with some friends of Ron's, older brother Charlie, who worked as a dragon tamer. But then we they also discovered that, Hagrid let it slip out that Fluffy was in fact guarding something, and it was just between Dumbledore and Nicholas Flamel.

Tay:

Mhmm. And they're like, who is Nicholas Flamel?

Jenn:

Because who

Tay:

is Nicholas

Jenn:

Fomel? So Harry's research turned up nothing, but here comes Hermione. Hermione actually had a book on alchemy and that she was using for, and I quote, for a bit of light reading. Now this was also in the movie, and she realized that Fluffy was guarding the philosopher's stone. I can't man, I have you know, I actually had Fluffy, like, as a stuffed animal.

Jenn:

I love that damn thing, and it's so Aww. So fluffy. I was like, oh god. I know. He's so cute.

Jenn:

I think I still have him somewhere. So Harry was really fearful, obviously, that Voldemort was gonna come back, and steal it by stealing the stone. And then he was also thought that Snape was acting as a double agent, so he wanna steal it first. Right? So here's the trio, sets out.

Jenn:

Now Hermione, they get caught by the devil's snare, if you remember. And Hermione helped free him by casting the bluebell's flame.

Tay:

Yes.

Jenn:

Now luckily, man, luckily, they had Hermione because they would have been stuck. So just a note, this is actually freaking cool

Tay:

on it. And was, like, choking himself.

Jenn:

Yeah. Stop moving. And she's like, stop moving. And then she cast the bluebell flame and it released him. So some of these things are actually playable on, PC Mac game.

Jenn:

I didn't write down all of the names of the video games, but some of these things are playable. And then the riddle that Harry has to solve, with the potions in the black and purple flames, Also, a playable that was not in the movie, but Hermione has actually ended up being awarded 50 points to Gryffindor by correctly solving, professor Snape's potion riddle in the end. Yes. So but yeah. Pretty cool.

Jenn:

Playable. Yeah. Playable, just so you know.

Tay:

Okay.

Jenn:

So now we come to Harry Potter 2 in 1992. This is where we first encounter the prejudice, and this is actually where Hermione first encounters the prejudice of, and hatred surrounding her blood status when, Draco Malfoy calls her a filthy mudblood.

Tay:

Mhmm.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Tay:

And Ron tries to stick up for her and says eat slugs.

Jenn:

Yeah. But his tag was broke. Eat slugs. He tried. He gets points for trying for real.

Jenn:

He does. Alright. So the trio learned of a secret chamber that was built by Salazar Slytherin in which, it hit a horrible monster that would petrify muggleborns in Hogwarts, because Salazar Slytherin was, against Muggleborns being allowed into Hogwarts. And they found out that it can only be opened by Anne heir at Slytherin. Mhmm.

Jenn:

And it is to note in this movie that, Hermione is actually able to make, polyjuice. Now everybody thinks, oh, yeah. She made polyjuice. It's actually a very advanced potion. If you remember in later books, professor Snape makes a polyjuice potion, which he is the potions master.

Jenn:

Yeah. I mean, if she can make a polyjuice potion and so does, you know, and Snape does, I mean, that does super advances my point. It's crazy.

Tay:

Yes.

Jenn:

And actually takes a month to brew this potion.

Tay:

Mhmm.

Jenn:

And she actually goes into, professor Snead's own cupboards in order, to, make this Polyjuice Potion. And the point of this is to interrogate Draco to see if he is actually the heir of, Slytherin. Hermione, let's see. They they got a hair from, Bolster's cat and not actually Millicent herself. So they didn't show this in the movie, but, so you see Ron and Harry change into crabbing Goyle, and I don't think in the movie she actually took anything, but in the book she actually did.

Jenn:

She ended up turning into a cat.

Tay:

No. She does in the movie. She turned into a cat. She has a cat face.

Jenn:

Does does she? I can't remember that. I haven't seen the second one in so long. So she turns into a cat. So she stays, she actually has to end up staying in the hospital wing for a while because she ended up staying in this cat form well after, the potion wore off.

Jenn:

Damn. Believe it or not. So, yeah. And so Hermione is actually the one that draws this connection between Harry hearing voices in the wall during the and she came to the conclusion that this creature must be a basilisk. And Amanda Yeah.

Jenn:

I'm sorry, Amanda. Yeah. Yep. She was hiding in the stall. Yep.

Jenn:

I remember. You're right.

Tay:

And then she does open up eventually the door to reveal that she has a cat.

Jenn:

So she did a lot of research. Yeah. That's right. Uh-huh. I oh, yeah.

Tay:

I'm like,

Jenn:

I forgot about that part. So our dear sweet, Hermione, as usual, dives into her research and, researches that if she used a mirror to, like, look around corners, which actually ended up saving her and another student's life, she would be petrified instead of dying instantly from the, the Basil looks, stare or his eyes, if you will. It kinda, like, reminds me of Medusa a little bit. Just see some parallels there.

Tay:

I love it.

Jenn:

Right? Right. So she ends up being petrified. So we don't see a whole lot of Hermione, in Harry Potter too after this because of her being petrified, but she still manages to help the, the rest of the trio, because she ended up scribbling pipes because they couldn't really figure out how the basilisk is transversing the skull. Right?

Jenn:

Right. So luckily, her Hermione had that all figured out. Alright. So, in Harry Potter 3, occurs in 1993, she adopts a a Ginger Partkneasel cat, which actually aneasel. I had to look that up because I was like, what's aneasel?

Jenn:

I don't know. Did you know what a nasal was? I had to look that up. I was like, what's a knees? I'm like, I am I'm curious.

Jenn:

I'm like, what's a nasal? So Bless you? Actually, a magical bead. Yeah. God bless you.

Jenn:

Sorry. Could tell you. No. No. It's okay.

Jenn:

That's where my brain went. I was like, sneezle? What? So Stupid. So, she adopts this cat, Sewing Diesel.

Jenn:

I can't with you, Tay. So, it's actually a magical beast related to a cat. Okay. And it's known to be able to detect untrustworthy people.

Tay:

Oh. I'm gonna bring that up again. Okay. I look forward to it.

Jenn:

You think that's why do you think that's why he's going after let's just talk about it now. Do you think that's why he's going after scabbards?

Tay:

Yes. Because the cat knows. It knows. Okay.

Jenn:

Makes so much more sense now.

Tay:

Good. It makes so much more sense now,

Jenn:

and I'm like Yeah. That's why he's going after scabbards.

Tay:

Right. He doesn't go after any of the other mice. He doesn't go after literally anything else. Just just just scabbards because of who Scabbards is.

Jenn:

Just scabbards. K. I slapped I slapped my my laptop down. I was like, I'm fucking done. I was like, damn it.

Jenn:

It was right there the whole time. I was like, damn, I knew it. Alright.

Tay:

Yes. Rob said it. And the new Scatteridge was no good.

Jenn:

So, obviously, yeah, he did. Me and guy Oh, I'm trying a little bit. Crookshanks.

Tay:

Yes.

Jenn:

Thanks. What's his name?

Tay:

Yes.

Jenn:

So, I know. Sorry. This is also the, movie where Hermione has a time turner. She got this remember, she got this from, professor McGonagall, so she could double up on her classes. What a nerd.

Jenn:

Very yeah. I mean, I had a hard time with, like, standard classes. Sheesh. She also defended, Buckbeet, Buckbeet. As you guys remember, he is a Hippogriff, from the Committee for the Disposal of Dangerous Creatures for, attacking Malfoy, during the Care of Magical Creatures class.

Tay:

And that's why you see her

Jenn:

come back

Tay:

and be like, you have to get your attention to the hospital? No.

Jenn:

Oh gosh.

Tay:

When she comes back

Jenn:

with me? I have such a hard time with that same command. Like, Draco oh, fucker. I know. So annoying.

Tay:

He's useful later.

Jenn:

But she, she's on it is. It is. It is. It just that was so frustrating to watch that for Buckbeak. Anyhow, he had a good ending.

Jenn:

She also deduced, this is oh, guys. Remember this is where we first met professor Lupin? He's, like, one of the best defense against the dark arts teacher, like, ever.

Tay:

Yes.

Jenn:

I remember he was, she deduced that he was actually a werewolf based on his boggart being a full moon. Mhmm. Yeah. And then, also, the timing of, like, his unexplained absences from class and, how professor Schneep ended up changing their lesson plans to werewolves very abruptly because, you know, honey, you have

Tay:

that 294.

Jenn:

You girl, can't believe you remember that.

Tay:

I am a nerd. It is in my blood.

Jenn:

Okay. It's okay. It's like, I bleed Harry Potter. It's okay.

Tay:

I don't remember really blue. For some weird reason.

Jenn:

Okay. It's okay. I get it. But but you remember during this, thanks to Hermione having her time turner and some very vague and very helpful instructions from professor Dumbledore. They were able to save Sirius Black and Buckbeep from death.

Tay:

Not only one life can be saved, but And

Jenn:

it was also at the end of this year. I know. You know, I can't you know, this this has to be close to my favorite. I know. I just I love all the movies, but this one's it's, like, super.

Jenn:

I have this I absolutely love this movie. So yeah. So she ended up turning her time turner in much to everyone since May because she just said it was just too much trouble. And it's like, okay, Hermione. Okay.

Jenn:

Alright. Now, Harry Potter 4 1994. So this is this was not in the movies, but this is where she started the crusade for the liberation of house elves, and then she called it Society For the Promotion of Elvish Elvish, Welfare, SPEW, s p e w. Wanna name it something

Tay:

else. Like a spew of words. Yeah.

Jenn:

Or barf. I always think spew is barfing. Like, anyways, after the abusive treatment of, a half elf named Winky, And the house elves actually didn't really appreciate Hermione campaigning because some of them liked their their positions. I know a lot of them, like working at Hogwarts. Right.

Jenn:

They they they enjoy their work, and they've been really like her campaigning. But there's actually a point where the the trio ended up, talking to Dobby and Winky. And I think Dobby was the only one who said he enjoyed being free, but he also started to talk to her about the struggles of being a free elf as well. Okay. And this is also one of my, more favorite books.

Jenn:

Yeah. It actually does. Yeah.

Tay:

Yeah. AD said that

Jenn:

Which is actually pretty Yeah. Interesting that JK Rowling added this in her books as well. Yeah. So this is the same book where, Harry Potter's name got put into the goblet of fire. Fun fact about Jennifer is I remember reading this book on one of my deployments.

Tay:

Okay.

Jenn:

So you know. Love this book. I read it a lot. It's not

Tay:

it has me great, but okay. Right? Yeah. Right?

Jenn:

So Hi, dad. Hermione was one of the only students that believed Harry. Who's this? Hello. What's up?

Jenn:

Hi, dad. What's up, dad? And this is where, she's the only one that believes Harry's innocent and not putting his name into a Goblet of Fire to enter the, Triwizard Tournament. I think there's at one point, Ron is suspicious of him for wanting all the glory and everything. But Hermione,

Tay:

like, just that in the movie too. Yeah.

Jenn:

And she's actually one of the few people that helps him prepare. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. This is where Hermione also discovers that Rita Skitter is actually an unregistered, animagus.

Jenn:

So she can actually shift into a beetle, and that's how she, witnesses really private confidential conversation. Yep.

Tay:

Mhmm.

Jenn:

Yeah. And so Hermione actually, threatened to expose her abilities, but, so, basically, Hermione, like, somewhat blackmailed Rita saying, like, you know, well, you're gonna write this instead, and you're gonna stop doing these things. And, obviously, Rita ended up agreeing with her. Wow. Good book.

Jenn:

Good book. Yeah. I know. Digest. Digest.

Jenn:

So, Harry Potter 5 1995. Hermione and Ron, were appointed prefects for Gryffindor. Oh. Hermione takes this position very seriously because this is quite an honor. What

Tay:

Katie said that's legit blackmail. She's not kind of.

Jenn:

It is. Well, the only reason I say kind of is because Rita kinda deserved it, and, honestly, I probably would've turned her in. Yeah.

Tay:

So Oh, okay. Yeah.

Jenn:

Yeah, Amy. Yeah. It's like, I wanna just turn that bitch in. Anyways, this is me. So Hermione takes her position at prefect very seriously because it's quite an honor to be a prefect.

Jenn:

Right? Again, she resumes her activism with that house, which you don't really see in the movies, but not as intensely as she did in the 4th book. Thank goodness. Because I think a lot of people are, like, really annoyed by this. She does do something kinda crappy, though.

Jenn:

So she starts knitting hats and socks and stuff and hiding them in Gryffindor Tower with, like, some rubbish. So when the elves, the she's trying to trick the elves into bringing themselves.

Tay:

Okay. Yeah.

Jenn:

Which I was like, you know, that's kinda

Tay:

crappy, Hermione. Because they didn't want to not they didn't wanna be free. Right. That that's wild.

Jenn:

Oh, yeah. Like I I kinda had an issue with this when I was reading that book, but anyhow. So it ended up that Dobby was the only household that actually enjoyed her gifts, and he was the only one that would, clean Gryffindor Tower. But she never knew about that. Dobby never told her.

Jenn:

He cleaned the whole thing and never said a word. He just enjoyed her gift. So I was like,

Tay:

Dobby. Dobby. Oh my god.

Jenn:

Dobby. Oh, man. This year, Luna, she met Luna this year. And if there was ever 2 people that were exact opposites, that would be Hermione and

Tay:

Luna. Mhmm.

Jenn:

But they got past their differences, and they ended up becoming friends. I think even JK Rowling has been quoted saying that Luna's like the the anti Hermione.

Tay:

Okay. That makes sense.

Jenn:

Yeah. Now, Hermione is actually one of the driving forces behind Dumbledore's army. She's the one that, told Harry that, you know, I think this is when professor Umbridge is teaching Defense Against the Dark Arts, and, she she actually refused to teach them anything. Dude, have you ever heard that Stephen King actually found her absolutely, like, chilling? Stephen King.

Jenn:

I can't believe that. He's like, wow. I didn't know that. Evil. I'm like, man, if the king of evil is saying that, yeah, he actually said it.

Jenn:

He's like, man, he's like, she's absolutely evil. I'm like, oh my god. Stephen King said that. She is. She's absolutely evil.

Tay:

Mhmm.

Jenn:

So she only focused on theory and not actual, like, practical application. So this is where, Hermione encourages Harry to help people practice and and learn. And this is actually the very first time that Hermione's Patronus charm actually takes a corporeal form. She's actually, unable to perform this in Harry Potter 3 when they're fighting the Dementors. And remember, we're not necessarily talking about Harry, but that's when Harry's able to perform one of the hardest charms, which is the Patronus charm, and it takes full embodiment of a stag.

Jenn:

Yeah. So Hermione wasn't even able to do that, but she does in this book. And then, she also, her brilliant spell work actually ensured the security of Dumbledore's army in the room of requirement, as well. And she created remind me if this is I don't remember this in the movie. I watched this movie not long ago, but she's actually the one that, created coins, that were enchanted with a protean charm.

Jenn:

Now this is actually an advanced charm that she ends up using. So the there's, like, a club attendance sheet, and any person who tattles on Dumbledore's army actually get a, this harness rash on her face that, spells out sneak. Oh. And and, like, painful boils. Right.

Tay:

Okay.

Jenn:

That Rob, that wasn't in the movie, was it?

Tay:

I don't I don't remember.

Jenn:

Think I remember that being in the movie.

Tay:

Mm-mm. I only remember Harry being the only one with anything, like, actually on his skin in the movie.

Jenn:

Right. But there yeah. So there was actually one of members of Dumbledore's army. Her yeah. I, which is sad because it's another thing that Hermione did that was actually really clever that actually showed, like, her abilities.

Jenn:

So there is actually a member of Dumbledore's army who was kind of reluctant to join in the beginning, but, she was being, interrogated and, yeah, her charm worked. She ended up telling and the sneak were coming on, the counter curse came on her face or the curse came on her face, and the professors were not able to find the counter curse for this. And that's when, like, Harry knew, like, her jinx abilities were just, like, absolutely, like, phenomenal. Like, that's so smart. Like, Hermione is just not just smart, but she's incredibly, like, clever as well.

Jenn:

Okay. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. I didn't think it was in the movie, Rob.

Jenn:

Thanks for, backing me up there. Now this is also, her afterwards because of the sneak curse. What's up, Paul? Yeah.

Tay:

I think it's my

Jenn:

Yeah. I think it'd be yeah. I vaguely remember that. Oh, you're I'm

Tay:

like We can ask for what

Jenn:

is having a fire. No. I'm good. Pause. Pause.

Jenn:

We're good. We're good. Okay.

Tay:

I got all warm. I'm like, oh

Jenn:

my god. What's happening? I'm good. Alright. It's like, oh my god.

Jenn:

So this is actually another, time where, Hermione stopped professor Umbridge from trying to use the, cruciatus curse on Harry during questioning after, he was sneaking in her office. She, at another time, lured, professor Unbridge into the Forbidden Formus claiming that, Dumbledore's army had a secret weapon that they were building for Dumbledore as well. And then remember that was when Umbridge ended up being killed?

Tay:

Yeah. That was in the movie. Yeah. Yeah. But That's how they learned it.

Tay:

Yeah. Yeah. Which was, like, super cool. I mustn't tell lies. Yes.

Jenn:

Mhmm. Yeah. And then, yeah. That was when, like, Hagrid's, like, half giant brother ended up helping them and and everything. So, yep, Jaime Hermione's, cleverness wins again.

Jenn:

What? Alright. Harry Potter 6. Harry Potter 6. So, this is where she took her OWLs.

Jenn:

Okay? She got high academic prestige when she, obtained 10 owls. So she got outstanding marks and charms, transfiguration, care of magical creatures, arithmacy, arithmency, history of magic, horology, astronomy, put girl. Really?

Tay:

All of the things. Come

Jenn:

on, go. All of the things except for defense against the dark arts. She only got exceeds expectations. And, actually, Ron ended up making fun of her because she was disappointed that she only gets exceed expectations at Defense Against the Dark Arts. Is it really

Tay:

Of course, she was disappointed.

Jenn:

That's that's for sure. I'm like, oh my gosh. I get it. I do. I do.

Jenn:

So this is when Hermione, I think, realizes her feelings towards Ron, When professor Slughorn has the potion of, Amer and Tia? Amarantia. Am I saying that right? Amarantia?

Tay:

It sounds right.

Jenn:

So it's the most powerful right? Okay. It's the most powerful love potion in the world. Right? Mhmm.

Jenn:

And it's supposed to smell differently between, according to what, like, attracts us. Yeah. So she states, I smell freshly mown grass, new parchment, and then she stops and has this, like, really awkward look on her face, and she she stops talking.

Tay:

And then she movie, she says peppermint.

Jenn:

I think the last thing

Tay:

suck me

Jenn:

if I cut you off then. Inquiring minds want to know, Ron.

Tay:

Do you

Jenn:

I think Ron smells like peppermint.

Tay:

Yep. He 100% does. I think she does.

Jenn:

Yeah. And in this particular book, it's trying to notice her feelings first at the school dance. Yeah. I think so too. I think when when, the school dance, I think she well, I think I remember that Ron didn't yeah.

Jenn:

When Ron didn't ask her.

Tay:

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. She was like, the head of the the Quidditch team now in Gryffindor, and he was like, oh, I'm, like, too good for any of this and then didn't have a date and then asked one of the, Indian twins, I can't remember their names, to the dance and said and she's like, you could've just asked me, and then she storms off and goes with the Krum Victor Krum.

Jenn:

Yeah. Like, she didn't wanna be the the backup plan.

Tay:

Yeah. Right.

Jenn:

Yeah. No. No. No. I I remember that because I know she I remember her being really upset at the dance and that, you know, he was kinda, like, jealous of Crum, and she was like, well, you coulda just asked me.

Tay:

And she says, you ruined everything. Yeah. Shoulda got

Jenn:

the book. Shoulda got the book. Yeah. Mhmm. Yep.

Jenn:

This is special to note, that they don't really know they don't really say a whole lot of it, but you see a lot more of it in the, in Harry Potter 7 or in the, Deathly Hallows part 1 and part 2. But in this particular book, she actually starts to master nonverbal magic. She was actually the first in her class to do so.

Tay:

Okay.

Jenn:

So, yeah. That's hard. Can you imagine that? And already this girl is learning magic and doing these things initially without even a wand and then she becomes even more brilliant, like, using a wand. And now she's the first one who's able to actually master it.

Jenn:

Not just do it. She masters, like, nonverbal magic. Like, damn, girl.

Tay:

It's like being a vain turtle person.

Jenn:

Talk about her

Tay:

mind. I'm

Jenn:

like, she's no. I can do it. My lips move. So Harry Potter's sorry. So ridiculous.

Jenn:

Harry Potter 7. I know, dear. I'm sorry. I can't help it. So they definitely hallows.

Jenn:

So Hermione, basically, she didn't necessarily plan the journey, but she was prepared. I know it says she planned it, but she was actually, like, very prepared, to help, Harry and Ron find their horcruxes. Mhmm. This is where you see Hermione taking the the memories of her parents, and making them forget that she was ever their daughter.

Tay:

Yep. Obliviate.

Jenn:

But who is the other Game of Thrones character? Don't say it, Tay. Oh. Who's the other Game of Thrones character you see in this scene? Who's her mom?

Jenn:

You may remember who her mom is?

Tay:

We'll leave it up to Rob. I'm sure he'll get it.

Jenn:

I got money on Rob. Mhmm. I got him I got my money's on you, Rob. Alright. I'll wait for him to,

Tay:

to To answer. Yes.

Jenn:

This is where she, she joins the Order of the Phoenix. I remember they wanted to join earlier, but they were way too young, and that's why they created Dumbledore's army. But now they're old enough, so they end up joining the Order of the Phoenix. And this is where you see the order of the phoenix comes to remove Harry from his home. You have all of them, like, taking the polyjuice potion to beat the 7 potters.

Jenn:

Mhmm. She, in particular, flew on a terrestrial, with Kingsley Shacklebolt and fought off at least 5 Death Eaters.

Tay:

Yo, girl. Did you say

Jenn:

5? 5? And then she was also you said I said 5. She killed that

Tay:

Yep. There you go.

Jenn:

Look at Rob. Look at Rob. Catelyn Stark. Thank you. Exactly.

Jenn:

Can't believe that. Man, when I saw that, I was like, you know, it was actually the other way around. Like, I remember, like, watching Game of Thrones. I'm like, that's Hermione's mom. Oh my god.

Jenn:

Look

Tay:

at that. Yeah. 6 degrees Now I'm gonna have to go back and watch, like, Harry Potter and be like, oh my god. That's dark.

Jenn:

The scaler's dark. The scaler's dark. So during the execution of Albus Dumbledore's will, she received the tales of Beedle the bard, which was a a children's book that was only written in ruins, and this is where we find out about the Deathly Hallows. She also displays a incredible wealth of knowledge, as always, when she mentions that, the snitches have flesh memories. And this actually surprises Ron and Harry because she's not really a big Quidditch fan.

Jenn:

Mhmm. So, but she mentions this to Harry when Harry receives the golden snitch. Right. One of the, things that was bequeathed in him from Dumbledore's will.

Tay:

Mhmm.

Jenn:

During this, these actually two movies, she shows a lot of, great foresight and magical talent, but she's actually able to, to separate herself and, Ron Ron and her and Harry away from danger during the wedding when the Death Eaters attacked.

Tay:

Right.

Jenn:

And, this is where you see the small beaded purse that she has that she plays an undetectable extension charm.

Tay:

Which is so rad.

Jenn:

Kinda has some, D and D influence there.

Tay:

No. Immediately, when I saw that purse but it did. I immediately thought

Jenn:

of there, JK.

Tay:

I immediately thought of, Mary Poppins is where my brain went where she reaches into the bag and she, like, pulls out, like, a whole, with a coat rack. That's where my brain went when I watched it. So that's where my, recognition came from.

Jenn:

I I just want that purse. Yeah. Just want that purse. Just saying. And, this is also where you see so just that alone, all the things that they needed packed, she has packed into this purse.

Jenn:

So

Tay:

Yeah.

Jenn:

We have great foresight there, Hermione. She was able to steal the wocket that, Dolores Umbridge had, around her neck because one of the, remember that was one of the, 7 horcruxes.

Tay:

Yeah.

Jenn:

And then, again, the staff writing again. I think this is where, Yaxley you remember when they were in the the head of the, ministries, and they're running away. And, yeah, actually, ended up grabbing onto them, separating. And,

Tay:

And then Ron's arm

Jenn:

was, like, also a revulsion jinx to, yeah, so that's where she used, oh, what is it? The, Essence of Dittany. Mhmm. Because she was too scared to heal him herself. Yeah.

Jenn:

She ended up using that. I remember that. This is actually sad when she was tortured by Bellatrix as well, but that that took a lot of mental fortitude. Like, I've never personally been tortured, but, I mean, for someone to actually lay there and be tortured by, like, a a high level, very powerful, witch Scary. I mean, she she was cutting into her arm with a dagger, and still, like, Hermione I think Hermione ends up passing out in the, the book.

Jenn:

But Mhmm. She she stayed strong for the whole thing. Poor Hermione.

Tay:

Yeah.

Jenn:

So dabbling a little bit to after hard Hogwarts, she ended up going back and, taking her newt exam, which those of you who don't know what newt means, it means nast exhausting wizarding test.

Tay:

Which is the last thing that I

Jenn:

have to do here? Subject, specific. Yeah. Last one. So that's basically kinda seeing, like, what job that you're, you know, smart enough

Tay:

for s a SATs and ACTs for the people that go to college.

Jenn:

Yeah. Basically. Yeah. Basically. Shortly after, I think a lot of this information, just so you know, comes from the Harry Potter and their Cursed Child a little bit.

Jenn:

I dabbled a little bit beyond. Yeah. I never read that book, but I was like, I won't get into that. So they so, Hermione and Ron married, had 2 kids, Rose and Hugo, and she was also the godmother of James James, Sirius Potter.

Tay:

Right.

Jenn:

I say t for wizard. Funny. One of the big things to note that, I think the reason why Albus Dumbledore gave her the Beedle the Bard, tales was because it was written in ancient ruins, and that was one of the things that Hermione was very good at. So she ended up translating this. It was actually, she took a lot of notes, that was lent to her from professor McGonigal to translate this.

Jenn:

I don't think anybody had ever translated it before, and, Hermione goes on with the Ministry of Magic to actually, get rid a lot of the, oppressively pro pureblood laws as well. Later on, she ends up becoming the, the actual minister of magic. I was like, damn. Wow. I'm not a new minister of magic.

Jenn:

Leave that. Damn, girl. Damn. There's still, a lot of things I won't really delve into with that as far as, like, the, the cure, the cursed child. But, if you've never read it I haven't read it because those I'm just gonna go I'm just gonna say it.

Jenn:

It was written for a play and it's just for me really readable. The struggle was real. I don't know if she was, like, I don't know if she was the first minister of magic. I don't I honestly don't know the answer. She's the first one that

Tay:

I know. We'll get back to you, Adi. Their We'll we'll let you know.

Jenn:

You have same issue. Yes. I'll look that up, bro. I'll look that up. But, anyhow, so there's Hermione in a very large nutshell.

Jenn:

Super smart, super amazing witch. I love her. Absolutely love her.

Tay:

Yeah. Okay. Alright. So there is your favorite. To go into my favorite, I'm gonna be talking about Severus Snape.

Tay:

This is my favorite. This was my pick for this episode. So Severus Snape was born in cheers. So he was born on the 9th January in 1960, and then he died on the 2nd May 1998 at 38 years old in the Shrieking Shack. So to go into his childhood and Hogwarts years.

Tay:

Nope. There you go. Thank you, Jeff. Appreciate you. So I

Jenn:

appreciate you, bud.

Tay:

He was a half blood. His father was a muggle, and his mother was a witch. He was raised very close to the Evans home who is Lily Evans, Harry Potter's mother. Very poor. His father was abusive, and his mother was very neglectful.

Tay:

So not very a bright childhood. He met his, he met Lily and his, her sister, Petunia, when he was the ripe age of 9, and fell deeply in love with Lily. Did not care for Petunia, but loved Lily. The 2 became very close friends.

Jenn:

What happened

Tay:

to the war? Snape Snape and Lily started Hogwarts in 1971, where he was support where he was sorted into Slytherin, and she was sorted into Gryffindor. Snape actually became immediate enemies of James Potter, who is Harry Potter's dad, and, Sirius Black who is, Harry Potter's godfather as we've talked about him mainly in, Harry Potter 3. The, the start of this hatred started with a disagreement on their train to Hogwarts. Snape and Lily were in the same cart, and, Potter and Black came into the, cart with them, mainly because James saw Lily and was like, ah.

Tay:

But, anyway, they, got into a disagreement on this in this cabin. Yes. The heart heart emojis. Heart emojis all day every day. The it's a saying about which house is best.

Tay:

And James very much dislike Severus because he said that he wanted to go into Slytherin, and he was like, nah, dude. Like, Gryffindor is all day, every day. So, their tensions only grew because the both of them loved Lily so much. So, Snape had a passion for dark arts. He became involved with bullies, hurting the friendship with Lily, which broke in their 5th year, because, the people that he got involved with were all pure bloods, and she was not.

Tay:

This is also when, Snape met Lucius Malfoy, who is Draco Malfoy's father, and he was the prefect for, Slytherin during his 1st year. So blah blah blah. Slate Snape became a member of, Slugs Club. So professor Slughorn, he had a club for talented, potions. This is where, he is found in a pitcher clutching his, copy of Advanced Potion Making.

Tay:

We'll get to that in a bit. Snape can be like, in this book, Snape actually created a, multiple, spells and curses, one of which that I will talk about is septum centra, that slashes, cuts, to bleed extensively. You will never actually really see the picture of Snape, on, on Slughorn's mantle because he never really thought that, Snape would have oh, okay. Yes, ma'am. Because, Slughorn never thought that Snape would really become anything.

Tay:

So he just kinda hid him behind all the other photos, but keeping Lily in the front. So during the first wizarding war, which is in 1978 to 81, Snape tries to win back the affections of Lily by joining the Death Eaters. What? I don't know why he decided to do that. It was a really stupid decision.

Tay:

But one of his biggest contributions as a death eater was to let Voldemort know about the prophecy that he had overheard that goes a little something like this. At the end of July you said. Right? Yes. Yeah.

Tay:

The the professor that saw into the future that was having a conversation with Dumbledore. So he was eavesdropping. He heard this conversation. He heard the prophecy that said, at the end of July, a child will be born who will cause the destruction of Lord Voldemort. So this applied to 2 people, Harry Potter and Neville Longbottom.

Tay:

So Voldemort immediately targets the Potters. Snape begs Voldemort to spare Lily due to the his love for her. Right? Voldemort agrees, but ultimately, obviously, fails at this. Sounds like they should have used the unbreakable vow.

Tay:

We'll get into what an unbreakable vow is later, but just saying that would have, like

Jenn:

I agree.

Tay:

That would have definitely, like, caused all of this not to happen. But, anyway, story happens. We continue. Due to the fear of Lily being murdered, Snape flips sides and, becomes a member of the order of the phoenix as a double agent, and tells him what he told Voldemort about the prophecy and begs Dumbledore to protect Lily, despite his efforts to protect the Potters. Voldemort was tipped off by the one and only Peter Pettigrew, about where they were, AKA

Jenn:

Scabbers. I need them.

Tay:

Damn you, Scabbers. So Snape was devastated by Lily's death and wants to die. Just doesn't want anything else to do with anything. Dumbledore urges him to continue on living to ensure that Harry is safe out of the respect of Lily's memory. Snape, spends the rest of his life protecting Harry, because he realizes that's what he needs to do.

Tay:

So his career at Hogwarts was from, hi, 1981 to 1995. So Snape began teaching at Hogwarts in 1981. He applied for the position of the defense against the dark arts, but was rejected multiple times. This actually was because Dumbledore knew that, the job was jinxed by Voldemort, and no teacher would last more than a year. What do you want?

Tay:

It's okay. So sorry. She has done a

Jenn:

day about that. She's like, wow.

Tay:

Yeah. It's okay. It's okay. So, Voldemort, jinxed the position, and nobody would last more than a year. Yes.

Tay:

So Dumbledore employed Snape as a potion smasher, and as high as the Slytherin house. I'm sorry. So following Walter's call I'm so sorry.

Jenn:

It's okay.

Tay:

Following yep. There there she is. There's her snoop. Hi. Alright.

Tay:

So following Voldemort's fall, Snape never attempted to find his old master and thus, having switched sides. Yes. Okay. Yes. Having switched sides ever since the dark lord, had targeted Lily and this allowed him to avoid time in Azkaban as Dumbledore, like, defended him.

Tay:

A huge point was that Voldemort had a promise to Snape that to spare Lily. Yeah. And which we all know she didn't. Thank you, Rob, for putting that in there. Absolutely.

Tay:

So during this time, Snape actually fabricated what you mean? Yeah. Snape fabricated

Jenn:

the fact

Tay:

know what the fuck

Jenn:

you're reading as well.

Tay:

So Snape fabricated the fact that he believed Voldemort to be dead. But in truth, he and vault sorry. Correction. Dumbledore knew that Voldemort would actually return eventually. And this was the reason that he applied to be a teacher to ensure the safety of Harry.

Tay:

Snape is known to be a stickler for discipline, but obviously showed, bias for Slytherins. He would bully other students without per, repercussions, especially Neville for obvious reasons. If Voldemort went after Neville, Lilly would have never died, and he always thought of the what if. So Snape was cold to Harry as his actions were being reported by death eaters to Voldemort. And but in in reality, he was actually, like, protecting Harry.

Tay:

He just wanted to make sure that if Voldemort was, like, eavesdropping and watching into his visions, that he would know that, like, he wasn't being a double agent. So, this was so like, he would never know too much about Voldemort's plans. That way, like, when Harry and his friends were doing something to, like, stop the plans, he would been, like, I

Jenn:

didn't know. How would I

Tay:

have known? Right? So playing devil's advocate. So 1991

Jenn:

At some point, I think JK Rowling told Alan Rickman that his story and, like, that that kind of endgame. So he was actually able to play Snape even

Tay:

Mhmm.

Jenn:

More accurately, I think. Do you remember reading about that?

Tay:

Yeah. I do. And I love Alan Rickman. May he rest in peace. I love him as an actor.

Tay:

I'm a gush about him a little bit, but, like, he's one of my favorite actors, especially with Galaxy Quest. I love that movie. Ridiculous movie, but it is

Jenn:

It's crazy.

Tay:

It is so close to my heart. Yeah. So 1991 is where we're gonna do our first point, and that's in Harry Potter 1. So in 1991, the Philosopher's Stone went from Gringotts to Hogwarts for safekeeping, because they knew never give up, never surrender. Yes, AD.

Tay:

Yes. Surrender. Oh my god. Yes.

Jenn:

Song's in my head now. Thanks.

Tay:

Snape contributed to the defense for against this artifact, to keep it safe by adding this potions riddle as we had talked about before. On Halloween, a mountain troll was let into the castle. So Snape tried to stop Coral from sneak sneaking into the, restricted third floor where the stone was hiding was actually bitten by Fluffy, which is why he had that, scar on his leg. Mhmm. Coral's first attempt at Harry's life was when he jinxed his broom during the Quidditch, match.

Tay:

Snape actually performs a counter course a counter curse. Sorry. Hermione actually sees this and thinks that Snape is the one that's jinxing Harry and goes underneath the, bleachers, so to speak. Right? And does the spell to, set his robes on fire.

Tay:

Luckily, Snape is very dramatic and knocks Quirrell over and ultimately broke his eye contact to stop the drinks. So the next part is in, Harry Potter 2. Harry, found out that Ron and correction. Snape found out that Ron and Harry, had traveled to Hogwarts, in the, flying Ford. And out of fear of Harry being expelled and putting him in danger, Snape confronted them and then called smartly, like, Dumbledore and professor McGonagall, to solve the situation, which they just sent them to detention and said, don't do it again.

Tay:

Dumbledore assured, that they would not be expelled, and, McGonagall was the one that, punished them with a warning and detentions. Sneaked up this punishment was too lenient even though, like, he wanted them not to be expelled. He still wanted the punishment to be, like, severe. Right? And retaliated by allowing the, Slytherin Quidditch team, to take over, Gryffindor's Quidditch team's, practice time, which you can see in the movie, with Draco being their new sitch finder, snitch.

Tay:

During this year, Professor Snape also worked with the new Defense Against the Dark Arts professor, Lockhart in running the dueling club. Snape showed a large amount of interioration anger at wildcard, who is the teacher of the subject that he most cherished. Snape used the disarming char, charm and blast him against the wall. So then Harry and Draco

Jenn:

I love that. Love each other.

Tay:

Yes, it was amazing. The guy went flying. So then they had Harry and Draco come up and fight. Snape actually instructs Draco to conjure a snake, and this is one you can see that Harry, uses parceletongue to talk to the snake. And then snake, like, quickly, like, vanishes the snake, and he's like, nope.

Tay:

Whoops. You weren't supposed to do that. Snake was responsible for brewing the, mandrake, drought in order to cure all of the petrified from the the snake of the Slytherin that had, like, terrorized the school. So in Harry Potter 3, in 1993 I'm your man.

Jenn:

He's he's amazing at the potions.

Tay:

He is. He has saved everybody's life. And he's like, don't worry. I'll save y'all. And then he brewed ocean and everybody was good.

Tay:

I got that. Yeah. And Harry Potter 3 with the muddler. In Harry Potter 3, the snake was the one that drew, brewed a wolf Spain, like, potion for lupine. That's the page 394 that I brought in my notes, but we already talked about that.

Tay:

Snape, thought that Lupin was helping Sirius Black, who, was an escapee from Azkaban to enter the Hogwarts, castle. So he wasn't really, like like, happy about that. So he went and confronted them at the, Whomping Willow. That's when you see all of that happen. At the end of the school year, Snape ambushed Black and attempted to apprehend him, believing, that he had been the one to betray Lily to Voldemort.

Tay:

Snape appeared for underneath the invisibility cloak that he had Harry turn into him earlier that year, tied up Remus, so Lupin and, engaged in an argument with Harry and Hermione while he was also arranging, for the Dementors to come get, Sirius and, Lupin to go back to Askevin. But, before giving up the 2 to the dementors, Harry, Ron, and Hermione all used on snake, and, eventually, the 2 got away. Snape was very upset. So what he do what did he do, like, to, like, get back is that he revealed, that Lupin was a werewolf and forced Lupin to, resign from the defense against the dark arts post as a professor.

Jenn:

So so can we talk about I've seen this in TikToks. Can we talk about how there's a point where professor Umbridge is with at least I think, I don't know if, Ron was there. We have Harry and Hermione that's in the Forbidden Forest, and you see the the herd of centaurs come in, and she hides behind the children. I'm sure you guys have seen this in TikToks. And then you see Lupin turns into a werewolf.

Jenn:

Now at this point, Snape is already disarmed. Have you seen these TikToks?

Tay:

No. I don't watch TikToks.

Jenn:

You have Harry, Hermione, and Ron, and Snape stands in front of them. And you can see it. He stands in front of them and goes like this. He doesn't have a wand. He has nothing to defend himself.

Jenn:

Granted, he may have some, like, you know, abilities. Obviously, I'm sure he does being, like, the excellent, like, wizard that he is. But he stands in front of the children

Tay:

Yeah.

Jenn:

To protect them. And I just wanna point that out. What, people don't give him enough credit. He has no wand. He has no way to defend them, but he is going to stand in front of the children and protect them because, obviously, professor Lupin is not within his right mind when he's in his word.

Jenn:

Absolutely.

Tay:

Right. Right. Yeah. But I remember that specifically in in the movie, and I always thought that that was, like, pretty cool. But then I was also like, why is he doing that if he hates them so much?

Tay:

And then you, like, find out later why. And I'm like, ah. So yeah.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Tay:

So in Harry Potter 4, Snape is extremely angry that Harry's name is the one that's chosen from the Goblet of Fire, for the Triwizard, tournament, But he refused to believe that Harry was the one that entered it. So, professor Moody, had Snape's office ransacked, claiming that it was, like, an Aurora's privilege. Whereas, in fact, it was just so he could get the ingredients to make more apologies potion because we all know, he was not who he said he was. So at the end of this movie, it was Dumbledore and Snape that tried to convince, the disbelieving, Cornelius Fudge that Voldemort had actually returned. And Snape finally just revealed the truth about, black's innocence and, that goes into the next movie.

Tay:

So in Harry Potter 5, this is 19 Okay. 1995 to 1996. With Voldemort's return, Snape had to carry on as the double agent for Voldemort. So when Harry starts having visions about Voldemort, Dumbledore asked Snape to teach him the way to, like, close his mind to, like, shut it off through the telepathic, telepathic connection. However, Snape had to be very careful in the way that he helped, as this would show Baltimore, if you were to read Harry's mind at that point, like, that he was like a double agent.

Tay:

So he had to be very careful about what he was doing. So he was hell of a actor in the books as well as, you know, in in the movie. It's just amazing. So in Harry Potter 6, this is in July of 1996, Dumbledore is afflicted with the curse, that was cast upon the ring, which is one of Voldemort's, horcruxes. Snape was able to slow the curse.

Tay:

However, he knew that it would kill him in the air. Aware of Voldemort's order for Draco to kill Dumbledore, Dumbledore actually asked Snake to kill him to spare Draco's soul and prevent, a slow and painful death. So Snape actually ended up agreeing, to the headmaster's request, although he was very reluctant to do so in the beginning. But Dumbledore was like, yo, man. Like, he would have, like, all amounts of trust in you if you did this.

Tay:

And he's like, you know what? You're right. So Snape, left and then was visited by Bellatrix and, Draco's mom, Narcissa Malfoy at his home. And, this is when, the 2 of them had told, Snape that Draco had been given this super difficult, like, task by Voldemort, and, Narcissa swore Snape into the unbreakable vow. The unbreakable vow pretty much says, like, if you don't do what I'm saying, you're gonna die, which is why it would have been super great Mhmm.

Tay:

If Snape did this with Voldemort at the beginning. But, anyway, this unbreakable vow would be, would be for Snape to protect Draco, complete Voldemort's task, and finish the task if Draco failed or he would die. Snape ended up doing this vow, and, we continue. So Dumbledore announced that he was appointing Snape as the professor of the dark arts. And then this is when Harry becomes into the possession of the property of the half blood prince, advanced potions book.

Tay:

So Snape, then went into Dumbledore's office. This is when Dumbledore told Snape that Harry actually had to die as he was one of the horcruxes. He is mad, but still showed that he loved Lily, Harry Potter's mom, by revealing his Patronus, which was a doe, same as Lily's. So, Dumbledore asked him, like, you still love her all this time. And he said always.

Tay:

Yes. Yes. Such a touching moment. So touching. So, always.

Tay:

Yes, Ralph. Always. So, Snape rushed, to the fight with Harry and Draco, where he had realized that Harry had just used the septumacentra. On Draco, he healed Draco's wounds, and then, he was trying to, like, talk to Harry about, like, where did you get this book? Where did you get the book?

Tay:

And Right. Like, Harry, like, switched his book with Ron's because Snape was, like, let me see all your books. And then he, like, gave him all of his books, but one was, like, bronze. So he never actually saw the book. So then Harry actually had discovered that it was Snape that, had heard the prophecy about the, the end of July child being the demise of Voldemort and was the one that told it to Voldemort.

Tay:

Despite all of, like, Harry's angry questions, they'll like, Dumbledore was like, dude, I still trust them. Trust me? I trust them. So after they, got the locket, they went to back to the astronomy tower. And, Dumbledore was, like, super weakened by Voldemort's potion, and the school was under attack.

Tay:

So he had asked Harry to go get Snape. But before Harry could leave, Draco had arrived and disarmed Dumbledore, who is, spoiler alert, holding the elder wand. This is, like What? Super yeah. So Dumbledore is always the one that had the wand.

Tay:

We'll get to that in a little bit, but Draco disarmed him. So now the wand is not, like, with Dumbledore anymore, but he's not able to fulfill the task of trying to kill him. So Snape had to do it. This is the part in the movie where you see Snape coming up to Harry in the bottom of the astronomy tower and just saying shh to him, and then, like, going up, killing Dumbledore. It was really well done in the movie.

Tay:

Adi, you are completely correct. I did not read the books either, but that this moment I'm

Jenn:

glad you're upset.

Tay:

This moment is just, like, so well done. So this left Snape to kill, Dumbledore. But Snape just was, like, blocking all of Harry's attempts to, like, hit him, but refused to strike back. Snape ended up getting mad at Harry when he calls him a a coward, and then, use his own spell and reveals to be the half blood prince. So Snape informed Voldemort that Harry was, about to depart for his relative's house.

Tay:

On Dumbledore's orders, Snape actually told him the date, but, Snape told, Monongus Fletcher to use the 7 decoys of Harry Potter. So when the death eaters arrived, they wouldn't know who the real one was. To be consistent with his, dual, like, person thing agent. There we go. Dual agent.

Tay:

He had, Snape had made Fletcher Fletcher not remember anything that he had told him. During this this, battle, he was trying to aim at a death eater, using septumacentra, but accidentally, cut off, George Weasley's ear, which is what you see

Jenn:

in the movie.

Tay:

So as headmaster yes? Or is I not hearing you before?

Jenn:

Sorry. He got off the stereo. I was like, can you hear me now? Sorry.

Tay:

No. I'm good. No.

Jenn:

That was a joke. Oh, sorry. Oh, oh,

Tay:

that went right over my head. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

Jenn:

So It's okay. I'm weird. That's okay. I'm weird.

Tay:

I'm sorry. I'm, like, so into my, like, notes and, like, saying everything that I completely missed your joke about him cutting off the earring. Can you hear me now? Alright. So Weird.

Tay:

It's okay.

Jenn:

You're good.

Tay:

That's why we get along. So in 1997 to 1998, Snape was appointed as headmaster of Hogwarts, and he appointed death eaters as the deputy heads. Snape actually used potions to discreetly protect the students.

Jenn:

Kinda had to.

Tay:

Yeah. And contain, the death eaters. You know? So, like, he was like, alright. Like

Jenn:

Mhmm.

Tay:

We're gonna do the things, but I'm a I'm a be real secret about it. You know? Mhmm. So Snape continued to actually receive directions, in the form of, like, instructions, right, from Dumbledore's portrait because all of the headmaster's portraits are there, and he's, like, talking to the portrait and still getting instructions, which I thought was super cool. So the sword of Gryffindor, was removed from the glass case, which is in the headmaster's accordance with Dumbledore's, like, like, test his will and testament, right, to Harry.

Tay:

However, it wasn't there. It was actually a fake. The real one was actually in the wall behind Dumbledore's portrait. Thought that was super cool. It's not in the books, but that was super dope.

Tay:

So he actually gave the fake sword after, Luna, Neville, and Ginny tried to steal it from the office and then sent to detention, he actually Snape gave the sword, the fake sword, to Bellatrix Lestrange who thought it was real and kept it in her vault, which is why when you see it in the movies, she's like, how did you get that? You were in my vault. How were you in my vault? It wasn't actually, like it wasn't the real one. Right?

Tay:

So then Dumbledore That just goes to show you that just goes to show

Jenn:

you that Bellatrix doesn't know the the lore behind, the sword of Gryffindor because it will appear to any Gryffindor that is truly in need. Correct. You can't keep it in a vault, girl.

Tay:

If Snape is, like, if Snape is a Slytherin and then she keeps it she's obviously, like, you know, a Slytherin. Right? Mhmm. And she just keeps it in her vault. Like, how would that, like, stay there?

Tay:

Yeah. Like, I'm not saying definitively that she is. I'm saying, theoretically, with my brain where it is. I'm saying that she's probably a Slytherin. Not saying that all Slytherins are bad, clearly.

Tay:

Obviously, as we have one in our heroes list. So Dumbledore's portrait actually instructed

Jenn:

True.

Tay:

Snape, to give the sword to Harry, the real one. So Snape actually took the real sword and then hid it in the frozen pond near Harry's camp spot. He used his Patronus, which if we all remember, is the same as his mother's, the doe, to lead Harry from his camp to the spot where it was in the lake. Snape fled the castle jumping out of a window, and he used his ability to fly without a broom, which ultimately we all think is kind of what he learned from Voldemort, because he was found out that, like, he had killed Dumbledore. So, now we're going into the battle of Hogwarts.

Tay:

So Voldemort told Snape as the, master of the elder one, from killing Dumbledore, that Snape must die, so that the elder wand could be his. The way that the elder wand works is whoever has it is the user. However, if you disarm them, whoever disarms them is the one that, like, has the wand. However, Voldemort didn't know that Draco had disarmed vol Dumbledore prior to Snape killing him. So what Voldemort thought was that Snape was the one that was the owner of the elder one.

Tay:

He wasn't. He tried to explain the situation. However, before he could get all of his world his words out, Voldemort actually ordered Nagini to kill Snake by biting him in his neck before he could finish. Super sad. Snake also took the 2 death eaters.

Tay:

Hopefully yeah. Yeah. There we go. That that's right, Rob. Thank you for letting me know about that.

Tay:

I totally forgot about that. So, so dying, Snape actually released a cloud of memories and told Harry in his, like, dying breath, to take them because he was watching, like, in hiding. Right? So Harry took the memories to, Dumbledore's office where he discovered that Snape had befriended Lily, and had been separated upon their arrival. He had seen that, Snape actually went to Dumbledore, like, begged him to hide, the potters from Voldemort.

Tay:

What was Snape's last words of Harry? I think it was, like, let me see your eyes or something like that. Because he wanted to see Harry's eyes because he had, his mother's eyes. You can correct me if I'm wrong. I don't I'm, like, kind of like Lily's eyes.

Tay:

Yeah. You have Lily's eyes. It it was look at me. There we go. Yeah.

Tay:

That was me kind of paraphrasing off the top of my memory. So, Snape had been seen going to Dumbledore, begging him to hide the Potters from Voldemort, who was planning to target Lily's son to prevent the prophecy. Snape felt pain and remorse that Lily had been murdered and agreed to help done Dumbledore protect Harry. Now this is all just kinda like what Harry's actually seeing to show him that Snape isn't a bad guy. He's actually the hero of a lot of things.

Tay:

So, the memories also revealed that, Snape had been the one to slow the court the curse on Dumbledore. And at the end, it showed that, Snape was outraged, at the fact that Harry had to die. And that revealed his Patronus that he had still loved his mom to his dying breath. Due to the memories, Harry understood where Snape lie Elange l alliances, always were. And it showed, Harry the memory where Dumbledore had told Snape that, Harry was a horcrux and to tell him at the right time.

Tay:

So needless to say, Harry has one of his children, and his name is Albus Severus Potter. It's a second son to Harry, and this was the only one to inherit Lily's bright green, almond shaped eyes that he named after Snape because of the impact that this man had on his life. So that's Snape.

Jenn:

He's such such an amazing character. Such an amazing actor. I mean Yeah. You know, I can only imagine what it's like to be Snape because, I mean, here is the child of the woman that you absolutely just loved through and through. And not only does I mean, Harry has his mom's eyes.

Tay:

Yeah. But everything else is his mother.

Jenn:

His dad, James. And

Tay:

Yeah. And he hates him.

Jenn:

Yeah. And and I can I get why, yeah, I and I get why Snape has such a hard time, like, looking at Harry because not only does he look like James, and he acts like James a lot of times, but he is also Lily? Yeah. And

Tay:

Through and through. He's Lily.

Jenn:

I I cannot yeah. And I can imagine what that's like. Like, you tried so hard to keep the woman that you app you love alive, and she dies. And then, you know, your your best friend slash boss wants you to, you know, help protect him while he's going through Hogwarts, and I I can't imagine what's going through him during that time.

Tay:

It's a lot of, like, give and take, I know.

Jenn:

I imagine. Yeah. Supports Dumbledore, like, through and through. Like, even kills Dumbledore.

Tay:

Yeah. Out of, like, Dumbledore's request, it was Dumbledore that would bust

Jenn:

He doesn't have to kill Dumbledore.

Tay:

Like, such a good guy. Significant thing. I mean,

Jenn:

if you ever doubt that a

Tay:

slogan can be Rob, I'm gonna need you to tell me what that first question was because I don't remember. Do you remember, Jen, what, Sam's first question to Harry was?

Jenn:

I don't remember. I don't remember.

Tay:

I don't I don't remember. I'm sorry, Rob. I let you down. I don't remember. He asked what happens when you mix powdered root of ethanol.

Jenn:

Oh, yeah. I

Tay:

don't know. I remember.

Jenn:

I

Tay:

don't know this. Jen, do you know the answer to this? Why that was significant? No? Rob, tell us because now we need to know.

Jenn:

Hail Rob, drop knowledge.

Tay:

I don't know. I need it. I need the knowledge now. Confusion of wormwood. I don't I don't know.

Tay:

Okay.

Jenn:

So Well while Rob types up his dropping knowledge on us, We are going to start talking about long bottom.

Tay:

Yes, ma'am.

Jenn:

He's the other person that, my friends in the USDM page voted, which I was super excited about because, you know, he's, I don't I don't have a super whole lot of information about him, but he is also a really important character.

Tay:

Yes. He is. He is the only

Jenn:

child of Frank and Alice Longbottom. Yeah. They,

Tay:

so

Jenn:

Alice and Frank were,

Tay:

really? Rob, my dude, I'm a go start crying now. I need I need a moment. I'm sorry.

Jenn:

I can't handle these feelings. Okay. Excuse us. We're gonna take a minute. Sorry.

Jenn:

No. I'm joking. So, so no. I don't

Tay:

I don't blame him.

Jenn:

I mean, I can only imagine. I mean, he loved her so much. That's his Patronus. That's his Literally. Source of happiness.

Jenn:

You can only create a patronus and All

Tay:

of your happiness. Yes.

Jenn:

To that true source of happiness for yourself. Yes. You have to have an absolutely beautiful happy memory. That's what I think was so amazing that Harry was able to create a corporeal stag as his patronus, just like his dad.

Tay:

Yeah.

Jenn:

Because, I mean, he so many things in his life that weren't happy.

Tay:

I mean, he looked under the stairs

Jenn:

for crying out loud.

Tay:

Yeah. But he had his own room.

Jenn:

Thank you for that question.

Tay:

So, Neville, tell me tell me about dear Neville.

Jenn:

Alright. So, Neville Neville. So, Neville's parents were, very well respected Aurors, and they were actually members to the original, order of the phoenix. As you remember from the books and the movie, they were tortured by Bellastrix, Lestrange and other death eaters, with the, cruciatus curse. So just like Harry, Neville's birth was, marked by a prophecy of being one of 2 children with the potential to defeat Lord Voldemort.

Jenn:

So in in Harry Potter 1, we meet Neville and he's mostly shy, clumsy, introverted. I can identify with that. Yeah. And he was what we didn't know is that he was constantly being told by his grandmother who who ended up raising him. He was not parents' accomplishments.

Jenn:

And Neville was, like, constantly was intimidated by, Grim Gryffindor's reputation for bravery. And during the sorting ceremony, he silently argued with the the sorting hat, for a really long time to be placed into Hufflepuff, but the sorting hat won in the end and placed him in the Gryffindor. So what a lot of people don't know, and they don't really show it in the movie, they they kind of allude to it more in the books, is that when people are being sorted into their houses, it's not like a quick, bloop. Oh, you're going to go from there, bloop, and you're done. It's it's a conversation that you have with the sorting hat.

Jenn:

The sorting hat can actually see into you. It takes your choices into consideration just like, you saw with Harry, like, potentially being sorted into Slytherin. But he's like, please, please. No. No.

Jenn:

No. God. No. And even with Hermione and then

Tay:

But real quick.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Tay:

Real quick. Sorry. Real tangent. What? Wasn't it interesting, like, thinking of it now that, like, the sorting hat went on to Harry's head, and it was like, would you like, do we wanna do Slytherin, or do we wanna do Gryffindor?

Tay:

And the reason I feel, like, why they wanted to put him in Slytherin was because he had half of Voldemort in him because he was a horcrux, which is, like, so amazing to think of it now. 100%. This was to 100%. Yes. Mhmm.

Tay:

And it was just, like, like, after watching, like, the whole series and being, like, thrown through all of the emotions and then, like, watching it again, and I was like, oh my god. Oh my god. That was why. But, anyway, sorry. Continue.

Jenn:

Yeah. And well, no. That's why the sorting hat is so important. I mean, as you can see, even Neville, like, wants to go into Hufflepuff, and I'll explain why later why it chose what I did and then why, you know, Hermione could have potentially be put into Ravenclaw, which are notoriously more studious, but she wanted to be put into Gryffindor. So, again, the sorting hat looks into you, but it also considers your choice, and it makes Right.

Jenn:

The choice that's probably what's best for you. It takes probably sporting into houses very seriously for the most part. Absolutely. So you see Neville, and he's in professor Snape's class. And he he melted his cauldron, and, that was brewing.

Jenn:

Another student was drenched in this. So he's obviously not very, very good at these things. And you see in the first Harry Potter movie, he's flying on his broom, and he falls off and ends up breaking his wrist and has to be take, taken to the, hospital or medical wing.

Tay:

Mhmm.

Jenn:

And then, when Harry and the trio leave to, have a duel duel with, Draco Malfoy, that is where Neville actually, trailed after them, and he was also, another person that drew the attention to Fluffy. Oh, Fluffy, you come up again. The 3 headed that that dog's important, let me tell you. Mhmm. And then also, during the Christmas holiday, Neville actually suffered, a cruel prank by Draco in which his legs, were stuck together by a a leg locker curse.

Jenn:

And Neville obviously was, like, super upset about this, and this is where he gave him his last chocolate frog. Oh. Trying to console him because I know, I think Neville actually had to hop all the way back to the Gryffindor tower. And this act of kindness from Harry actually helped them in the long run because,

Tay:

this is

Jenn:

where they were able to identify, Nicholas Flamel. So it was Dumbledore's, collectible card, and Nicholas Flamel was mentioned on this collectible card. So

Tay:

On the chocolate in the chocolate frog.

Jenn:

Oh, look. It has Nicholas Flamel on there. Yep. On the clock the card that goes to chocolate frogs. Yep.

Tay:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Tay:

Okay.

Jenn:

Yeah. And so you see the first time that Neville actually sticks up for himself is during, a Quidditch match. Malfoy was actually taunting the Gryffindor team, and Neville challenged Malfoy. Now, I think this is where Crabbe and Goyle, with with Ron, and they they jump into this big fight with, Malfoy. And I think Neville ends up getting knocked out by Crabbe and Goyle.

Jenn:

So there's there's a point where he's starting to stand up for himself. He's getting there.

Tay:

Yeah.

Jenn:

So he showed some bravery. And then, on the night that, professor Quarrel was starting or or attempting to steal the, philosopher or the sorcerer's stone, however you wanna put it, he attempted to stop Harry, Hermione, and Ron, but this is where, Hermione froze him. But

Tay:

Yeah.

Jenn:

It was like a full body buying curse, I think is what she casted if I'm not mistaken.

Tay:

Yeah.

Jenn:

And in the end, he ended up being awarded 10 points to Gryffindor, which pushed them into 1st place because I think they were tied with, Slytherin at that point.

Tay:

They were.

Jenn:

Yeah. He was recognized for standing up to his friend, which, as you can imagine, that's that's really hard to do. Like, stand up to your friends. I can't imagine. That takes, like, a huge amount of bravery.

Jenn:

So during Harry Potter 2 and the Chamber of Secrets, is when the basilisk is, attacking, the students, and he was afraid that he was going to be attacked, but he was told, like, you know, you don't have to, you know, be worried, like, you're a pure blood wizard, but, Neville was actually worried that he was a squib. Now those of you that don't know what a squib is, squib is, it's, a child that's born of magical parents

Tay:

Did you hear the so sad.

Jenn:

I heard that old

Tay:

oh. Did you hear the, theory that, Hermione actually comes from, like, a very powerful line of wizards and, like, her parents were just squids? Did you hear that? Because that's another TikTok, like, theory.

Jenn:

No. Yep. Okay. Cool. Just just wondering.

Tay:

My Go ahead.

Jenn:

Girl, you can't, like, drop that shit and not say anything about it, girl. Say it.

Tay:

No. I mean, like so my work friend, just kinda, like, dropped that, like, knowledge on me and then, like, walked away. And I was like, Because you were talking about Squibb just now and it like, because of like, an AD said it. Like, it's an actual interesting theory that makes sense because of, like, how powerful of a sorceress that she actually like, a witch that she is. Right?

Tay:

Like, how is she gonna have all of this magical ability but have, like, only, like like, non magical parents? Right? So, yeah, there's a theory out there for all of you that are listening, for a rabbit hole, if you will, that Hermione actually is not muggle blood.

Jenn:

So it's skipped degeneration. That would actually make sense because as powerful as she is Right? Would actually make more sense than her just coming from local parents Yep. Having no magical bloodline at all. Mhmm.

Jenn:

Her being, like, super amazing, like, can cast spells over her team gets 1. I do. I can totally believe that. I can wrap my brain around that one. Okay.

Jenn:

So, Harry Potter 3. So in the movie, it doesn't show it, but Neville's actually present when the dementors actually enter the train compartment. And, he once they get to Hogwarts, he tells people about this experience, and this is where Malfoy starts taunting Harry about fainting. And then, also, in the divinations class with professor Trelawny, this is where, he breaks, like, her her teacups. I don't know if they actually show that.

Jenn:

And, and then she this is where she actually urged him to, like, you know, try to catch up with the class. Try to try to, you know, do better. And I'm like,

Tay:

Damn. Damn.

Jenn:

Really necessary for the He's trying. Like, he's trying.

Tay:

He is trying.

Jenn:

I know. No. You're poor manna break. And then, this is also where he's in the potions class, and his shrinking potion is orange instead of green. And professor Snape tells him that he'll feed some of this potion to Neville's toad if he didn't get it right.

Jenn:

So Hermione ends up helping him. Remember, I kind of alluded that before. Hermione likes to help other people even though she comes across as being very bossy, but she does actually help people, and she helps Neville a lot. And his, potion ends up turning green with her guidance. He successfully shrinks his toad, Trevor.

Jenn:

It's, like, a little tadpole, but ending in, professor's name ends up taking 5 points from Gryffindor just out of spite for Hermione helping. Good old Snape. And if you I know. Leave it to him. Right?

Jenn:

And then, with professor Lupin, teaching the defense against our dark arts class, you see that, Neville is actually the first one, to face a boggart. And Mhmm. It turns turns into professor Snape. And this is where professor Lupin, teaches him how to kind of overcome a boggart. You imagine, like, the boggart and, or in this case, professor Snape and, like, your grandmother's clothes, And he ends up, earning 10 points for Gryffindor for, banishing the boggart, by the end of the class.

Tay:

Dude, that was, like, such a

Jenn:

huge deal. Shows, where

Tay:

working. It was just such a funny story.

Jenn:

Alan Rickman in, like, grandmother's clothes. I'm so curious. I love it. Love the mumu. It's the best.

Jenn:

So, this is also the, one where, he loses the password to Gryffindor because they keep changing the password so much. I think he ends up writing it down on a a piece of paper, and he loses that piece of paper. And then Sirius Black is actually able to, gain access into the Gryffindor tower.

Tay:

This is why he needs that.

Jenn:

Remember McGonagall actually bans him.

Tay:

Remember the wrong It doesn't actually

Jenn:

help him remember anything. It

Tay:

No. It just says that

Jenn:

he'll remember forgetting something.

Tay:

Forgot something and just can't remember what. Yeah.

Jenn:

He's like, what? And I and I remember in that scene, he forgot his, cloak. He was like, I don't I don't remember what I didn't remember. Really, dude? Like, come on.

Jenn:

So professor McGonagall actually bans him from having the, for bans him from Hogmeades and then also, bans him from having the password enter Gryffindor Tower. So he actually has to rely on the other students. So he has to stand there and wait in order for him to gain access to the tower. And I think the entire time, the the fat lady that actually guards the entrance to the Gryffindor Tower is just sitting there, like, sneering at him like yeah. She just sneered.

Jenn:

She that was her. Thank god to play her is, like, absolutely hilarious. She's funny. So on to Harry Potter 4. This is where professor Moody, professor Moody, air quotes, has his first class for, Defense Against the Dark Arts.

Jenn:

And he starts, giving the class information about the Crusiadis curse. And he demonstrates this curse on a spider.

Tay:

Mhmm.

Jenn:

Now Neville is absolutely terrified, understandably so, because as we remember that Bellastrix Estrange and other death eaters performed this curse on his parents.

Tay:

Right.

Jenn:

But, professor professor Moody ends up using Neville, because we know it's not Moody. Right? And gave him a book on magical water plants, and this is actually how Harry gets the idea of using the gillyweed in, during the Triwizard, tournament, that he needed for his second task. So Neville did play a part in that. And then, it also showed in another, class by professor Moody that, he was put under the imperious curse and able to perform, like, all these, like, gymnastics things that he normally wouldn't be able to if he wasn't under this curse.

Jenn:

Again, this wasn't shown in the movies, but it it shows you, at least in the book, like, how powerful these curses are.

Tay:

Right.

Jenn:

Just yeah. The imperious curse is definitely not something like, you can do things that you normally can't do when you're not under it. Pretty impressive. Yeah. During, Harry Potter 5, you don't really see a whole lot of Neville.

Jenn:

You see him kinda participating. He was actually one of the first people that signed up for Dumbledore's army there. I think this is where you first seen Neville actually successfully, disarm someone. I think he ends up disarming Harry

Tay:

Mhmm.

Jenn:

In the room of requirement. So you start seeing Neville gain a little bit of confidence and showing, some talent.

Tay:

And this is why we love character people.

Jenn:

Plays a big part in that. You know, that was actually one of the reasons why I wanted to talk about Neville because you see him as this shy, introverted, clumsy kid, and he has really great character growth. Like, I think where he really starts to blossom is probably Harry. The last few Harry Potter books, you know, he starts getting some encouragement from Harry and and some acknowledgment, and that he really just starts to blossom. Right.

Jenn:

So even, in the books in, Harry Potter 5 and Dumbledore's army, he starts improving, like, beyond all recognition in just a few months. Like, he absolutely throws his heart into learning the things that that Harry is teaching. Like, it's just amazing. In Harry Potter 6, though, this is when, 10 Death Eaters escaped. This is also including some of the ones that, tortured his parents.

Jenn:

But Neville didn't really talk about it, but Harry comments that, it brought a strange and, even alarming change in Neville when these death eaters escaped. He worked harder than anyone in Dumbledore's army and was, faster to pick up new spells. The only person that kind of, outdid him was, of course, Hermione. That that says some things. Nerd.

Jenn:

Yeah. About, our journal. Right? You're the nerd is getting strong with this one. And then also in the, the hall of prophecies when they're going to, find Harry's prophecy.

Jenn:

Yeah. Get I'm getting there, Rob. Mhmm. Yeah. He he really does.

Jenn:

Really does. He, disarms, Sebastian Lestrange in the time room. He also accidentally disarms Harry, in the same time room as well, but he's, definitely an asset in, this particular, part of the story. He was unable, to help Harry in the death, chamber with, several death eaters, that actually had Harry cornered. But he did also try to help Hermione's wand, with Hermione's wand.

Jenn:

So she was actually ended up being knocked unconscious. But, he had gotten hit and his nose was broken, so he wasn't actually able to pronounce the spells appropriately, but he was still trying to, can you imagine trying to, like,

Tay:

any of you Nope.

Jenn:

I asked Nope. What's going on? I just wanted to pinpoint that for you just in case you wouldn't, like, rub your brain around it. Like, he had a hard time. Had a really hard time.

Jenn:

And then, also during this exchange, Eighty's done for. And Bellatrix Ostrange briefly tortured Neville, risked the our coursiatis curse to make Harry hand over the prophecy orb. And Neville's telling Harry not to hand over the orb. He's like, don't do it. Don't do it.

Jenn:

And this is when the order of the phoenix arrives, and, Harry tries, to get out with Neville. And, they were stopped by, another death eater. And Harry and Neville are trying to escape, and that's when, Neville ends up breaking the prophecy accidentally because it's hidden in, like, this glass orb.

Tay:

Mhmm.

Jenn:

And this is also where you learn from Dumbledore that, Harry and Neville are both born at the the close of July just like the, prophecy from, professor Treilani had said. And Dumbledore tells Harry that he did believe that the prophecy did refer to Harry, and Neville equally. It's just Voldemort chose or marked Harry as his equal as attacking him. In the end, Neville's grandmother ended up purchasing him a new wand, and I think it ended up being a 13 inch cherry wood with a unicorn hair cord. Just wanna point that out.

Jenn:

Just to point out that even though there's a lot of things that went on in Harry Potter 5, what you can see is that it's not just Neville trying. He's embodying what it means to be a Gryffindor. He is having courage. He is showing bravery. Although he's not always doing the best, but he has that with within himself.

Jenn:

That

Tay:

He's doing the best that he can do as himself.

Jenn:

Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, in Harry Potter 6, this is where professor Slughorn is, in the, Defense Against the Dark Arts. And, he's invited to the slug club, and he doesn't quite meet the quota.

Jenn:

So he gets kinda booted, and I think it kinda hurts his feelings a little bit. He actually, tests for his owls, and, he gets, Herbology, charms, outstanding, and then his events against the dark arts does, exceeds expectations. Just little note. Okay. And his, he does okay with transconfiguration, but I think, professor McGonigal says, you know, don't go for it because, you know, it's gonna be hard, and you're not gonna be able to keep up with other people.

Jenn:

He was present during the, battle of the astronomy tower. He responded to, there was a summons. I don't know if I don't think they mentioned in that in the movie, but there was a summons through the Dumbledore army coins, and him and Luna came. And, I believe he stood outside. I think he is with Luna outside the room requirement, with Ron and Jenny waiting for Malfoy.

Jenn:

Ralph Malfoy ended up evading them, and, Neville ended up, getting injured and spitting, in a considerable, amount of time in the hospital wing, but, I think there's, in one of the games, you actually see him there during, Dumbledore's funeral. Now, Harry Potter 7. Guys, this is where Neville just absolutely blossoms and not just because he's great at herbology, blossoms into this ablytiful, beautiful flower. He just so proud. Look at your ages so bad.

Jenn:

So Harry, the trio, Harry, Ron, Hermione are gone searching for the horcruxes. Right? So Neville stays behind at Hogwarts, and he restarts Dumbledore's army with Luna and Jenny. He got into trouble with, like, the death eater professors, for our refusing to, practice the cruciatus curse on the students as, like, a form of punishment, which to me is, like, understandable. Like, my parents got tortured with that.

Jenn:

Bitch, I ain't

Tay:

doing shit in the middle of the semester.

Jenn:

Right? I'm like, fuck you. Mm-mm. Yeah. Like, fuck you twice.

Jenn:

Like, no. And then, I remember Snape ended up getting involved in the book, and, he his punishment was sending them to detention in the Forbidden Forest with Hagrid. Nuts. Guess I'll just go into the forest with Hagrid. Please, no.

Jenn:

Not anything with that. So Neville kinda faces this thing like, he has this whole rebellion. He's leading this whole rebellion by himself. They kinda ceased the open rebellion because I think at one point, there was, somebody was, there was a 1st year that was chained up, and someone was, like, brutally tortured for trying to free this 1st year student. So, Neville decided kind of, like, this open rebellion wasn't gonna be, work anymore.

Jenn:

And I think he kinda lost a lot of heart too after Luna was dragged away by Death Eaters because, like you had said, like, her father was, worked for the Quibbler, so they're kinda using Luna as leverage. Yep. And then, he also lost, Jenny when, the, the Weasleys, took her, and they went into hiding after, it was after that, fight they had at Malfoy Manor when Bellatrix Reshanger was there, and that was when that's when Dobby died. I don't wanna talk about it. Yep.

Jenn:

And, dude, during this time, Neville suffered a lot of torture and beatings and everything at the hand of the death eater professors. And they also, at one point, targeted his grandmother. But she his grandmother, even though she wasn't super nice to him, she she was smart. So once she kind of knew that this is going to happen, she evaded capture, and she went into hiding. Mhmm.

Jenn:

And he ended up hiding in the room requirement along with a lot of the other people that are part of Dumbledore's army. And you remember that also connected to Hogshead, so that's where they were getting their food from, Aberforth, Dumbledore.

Tay:

Right. Right.

Jenn:

So, about, right, so about the time that, Ron, Harry, and Hermione returned, he signaled to the rest of Dumbledore's army to return to Hogwarts, and that was the, beginning, of the Battle of Hogwarts. His grandmother was like a legit badass. Yeah. I remember reading about that. Like, I mean, his parents, I mean, both were ours, and then, like, his grand like, I I can kinda see why she's like, come on, Neville.

Jenn:

Like, you're not living out to the family name. But, I mean, he just needed his own time to grow. But, yes, like, for sure. Like, I I I read some stuff about his grandmother. It was a rabbit hole I went down for a little bit, and I was like, damn, man.

Jenn:

His grandmother ain't no joke. Like We'll

Tay:

talk offline. Set people up.

Jenn:

So Neville being, yeah, yeah, we'll talk. So this is where it doesn't really show it in the movies, but this is where, Neville uses a lot of his knowledge of plants to, like, attack the death eaters. Mhmm. And this is where, he tells he tells Harry, like, hey. It's gonna be my top priority to get, Nagini, Voldemort's snake, because he they knew that chews are horcrux.

Jenn:

And this is even, after Harry goes into the woods and supposedly dies, he still stands up in defiance against Voldemort. Can we say Voldemort's name? Should we say Yes. He must not be in the same place. Right?

Jenn:

We can say his name? Yeah.

Tay:

We're good? Okay.

Jenn:

Okay. It's not A little bit more like I couldn't cringe a little bit. Can I say that? Oh, okay. This is where you see, Neville, even though Harry's dead, a lot of his friends are getting beat up and everything, he still stands up in defiance.

Jenn:

Hell yeah, dude. And he was even, in the books, he was forced to, wear the sorting hat to, like, almost, like, force his loyalty to vol Voldemort, and he was actually burning his head. And he absolutely refused to, like, pledge his loyalty to Voldemort.

Tay:

That's wild.

Jenn:

Okay. Girl, books. I know. And there are some things, like, I get where they leave it out, but there's other things I'm like, yeah. You could've you could've mentioned that.

Jenn:

Just

Tay:

saying. Yeah.

Jenn:

And because of the amazing bravery that he showed, he was able to pull the sword of Gryffindor from the sorting hat. So he proved himself to be a true Gryffindor at that point in the eyes of Godric, Gryffindor.

Tay:

Yes. Because whoever gets a sword needs to be the most. Amazing. Exactly. Amazing.

Jenn:

And he he doubted this a lot the whole time that that poor kid was at Hogwarts. He was so shy, weak willed, and he was kinda like this bumbling goofball. He never truly believed that he was a Gryffindor. Now I just wanna point out this awesome, awesome moment where he takes off Nagini's head. Girl, he doesn't hack it.

Jenn:

He hits her with one stroke.

Tay:

How does he do it? Tell me.

Jenn:

Cuts her head off. Girl. I was just like, oh my god. My god.

Tay:

With a single swipe, just gone. So he

Jenn:

he did. And, you know, all in all, like, later on, he ends up, becoming the the head of the Gryffindor house, while McGonagall is the the headmistress, in the book of, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child.

Tay:

Mhmm.

Jenn:

But he Neville Longbottom went through this amazing transformation from this timid scaredy cat into this soldier of, like, ironclad will. That's the only, like, thing I can only he's amazing. I mean, even, like, the person, like, transforms into, like, this chubby kid, which don't we all love chubby kids? And he just comes out like this brute chiseled guy, and I was like, what happened to Neville? I'm like, who is this?

Jenn:

My god. What happened? And it he he became becomes this ferocious defender of his fellow students during Voldemort's reign. And I have to say, like, in the end, the sorting hat got it right. When she placed him into Gryffindor is a 100% where he belonged even though he didn't believe it.

Jenn:

Guys, when the starting hat puts you into a place, you just need to have faith that that is where you were meant to be.

Tay:

Now I have the song gotta have faith faith faith. Sorry. In my head. But, anyway, bye, Rob. Thanks for sticking through.

Tay:

Yeah. So you're ready for our final shots and thoughts?

Jenn:

I am. Let's do this.

Tay:

Okay. So final shifts and thoughts. Thank you for everybody that Thank you for everybody that tuned in to our 5th episode. Super thankful for everybody that commented and everything. You guys have been super helpful with getting us that info.

Tay:

I super appreciate it. Stay tuned for the USDN page for our updates for our 6th episode, which you guessed it, it's Hogwarts villains coming right at you. But that's gonna be in like November because in October we're gonna be doing a whole bunch of horror stuff. So

Jenn:

stay tuned for that because that's gonna

Tay:

be a horror stuff. So stay tuned for that because that's gonna be super fun. K. So, USDN episode 3 is coming at you live, on September 23rd. Mark your calendars at 9 PM Eastern Standard Time, continuing our predator and alien, universe.

Tay:

We have more to come for our interview series. So, also, go ahead and check out that. If you haven't watched any of those interviews, you know, you have them on Spotify, Apple Music, you name it, we got it. We got you. We also wanted to point out that is as a Patreon member, you will have exclusive access for episode by episodes breakdown of Ahsoka.

Tay:

If you do not see the first one, it's already out. Come on Tuesday. We will be releasing it for the rest of you, non Patreon, members. So go ahead and listen to it. Make sure that you like, subscribe, comment.

Tay:

We are open to feedback. Please let us know what you guys think. Your one and only Rob who's been active in our comments is also live on that as well. So we super appreciate you. The next one, however, if you're a Patreon member will be on Monday, September 4th.

Tay:

But fear not, if you're not a Patreon member, we will be giving you a full up season wrap party, date here to come. Cannot remember it off the top of my head. We will, get that to you. Sorry to change course, but it's going back. A special thank you goes out to the DFPN, podcast group, our fam.

Tay:

Thank you for all the love and support that you've given us. If you like this little this little hat here and you see it, you love it, I love it. It fits great on my head. You guys can get it in our merch shop. If you don't know where it is, we have a Linktree.

Tay:

Don't worry. We got you. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is USDN approved. Jeff, you got our outro?

Ep. 5: "Hogwarts Heroes"

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